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08-31-2015 | 05:46 PM
#21
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From: fatigued
For those thinking of coming here:
1. Do not be fooled by our pay rates. $30/hour but it's a 5 week bid. You're only going to get 69 hours a month instead of 80 like EVERY OTHER AIRLINE IN EXISTENCE.
2. Your new uniforms will cost you $725.
3. No jets, no signing bonuses, no flow.
4. The q400 is a god awful airplane, and you're gonna be doing 5-6 legs a day that are only 45 minutes long. You will sit longer than you fly. ****ty overnights.
5. We're losing 15 planes (30%) of our fleet at the end of next year and those leases will not be renewed. You WILL get furloughed.
6. We're not the only regional who operates in the PNW.
Seriously, do not come here.
1. Do not be fooled by our pay rates. $30/hour but it's a 5 week bid. You're only going to get 69 hours a month instead of 80 like EVERY OTHER AIRLINE IN EXISTENCE.
2. Your new uniforms will cost you $725.
3. No jets, no signing bonuses, no flow.
4. The q400 is a god awful airplane, and you're gonna be doing 5-6 legs a day that are only 45 minutes long. You will sit longer than you fly. ****ty overnights.
5. We're losing 15 planes (30%) of our fleet at the end of next year and those leases will not be renewed. You WILL get furloughed.
6. We're not the only regional who operates in the PNW.
Seriously, do not come here.
08-31-2015 | 06:13 PM
#22
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Assuming all the leased airplanes are on 15 year terms, 12 airplanes would go away by the end of 2015 and two by the end of 2016, after which point I think the remaining airframes are owned by Air Group, so they could be parked whenever.
08-31-2015 | 07:24 PM
#24
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Joined: Sep 2009
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From: Canabus
It's so disappointing that things have come to this. Horizon was such a respected regional. Then again so was Eagle. It just shows have disfunctional the FFD system/carriers have become.
09-01-2015 | 08:06 AM
#25
Sitting and scratching...
Joined: Sep 2012
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From: Upright
This one did. QX is delusional. I found it insulting that with 18 years experience, and unfortunately being furloughed 2 times in a row, that my $591 every two weeks is too much or the AAG to pay for safety and competence. They can cram the thought of concessions up the high part of thir a$$.
Theyre probably playing on the super senior ex-
CRJ whiners (pleas note, not all of them fit into this category) that will do anything to get back into a jet.
With the current upward trend in the industry, there is absolutely ZERO room for any pilot group to give concessions. A company that needs concessions in this market is one that is being steered by incompetence and wanting labor to make up for their ineptitude.
Theyre probably playing on the super senior ex-
CRJ whiners (pleas note, not all of them fit into this category) that will do anything to get back into a jet.
With the current upward trend in the industry, there is absolutely ZERO room for any pilot group to give concessions. A company that needs concessions in this market is one that is being steered by incompetence and wanting labor to make up for their ineptitude.
09-01-2015 | 08:41 AM
#26
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Joined: Jan 2015
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For those thinking of coming here:
1. Do not be fooled by our pay rates. $30/hour but it's a 5 week bid. You're only going to get 69 hours a month instead of 80 like EVERY OTHER AIRLINE IN EXISTENCE.
2. Your new uniforms will cost you $725.
3. No jets, no signing bonuses, no flow.
4. The q400 is a god awful airplane, and you're gonna be doing 5-6 legs a day that are only 45 minutes long. You will sit longer than you fly. ****ty overnights.
5. We're losing 15 planes (30%) of our fleet at the end of next year and those leases will not be renewed. You WILL get furloughed.
6. We're not the only regional who operates in the PNW.
Seriously, do not come here.
1. Do not be fooled by our pay rates. $30/hour but it's a 5 week bid. You're only going to get 69 hours a month instead of 80 like EVERY OTHER AIRLINE IN EXISTENCE.
2. Your new uniforms will cost you $725.
3. No jets, no signing bonuses, no flow.
4. The q400 is a god awful airplane, and you're gonna be doing 5-6 legs a day that are only 45 minutes long. You will sit longer than you fly. ****ty overnights.
5. We're losing 15 planes (30%) of our fleet at the end of next year and those leases will not be renewed. You WILL get furloughed.
6. We're not the only regional who operates in the PNW.
Seriously, do not come here.
Why people keep coming here is beyond me...
09-01-2015 | 09:23 AM
#27
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From: fatigued
I hope it's not the "handshake agreement" that 30% of Alaska new hires will be horizon pilots, cause that's a ****ing joke.
If you want to live in the PNW...Compass has a SEA base. Skywest has a PDX and SEA base. Do not come here, and if you're in ground school I highly suggest you bail.
If you want to live in the PNW...Compass has a SEA base. Skywest has a PDX and SEA base. Do not come here, and if you're in ground school I highly suggest you bail.
09-02-2015 | 12:51 PM
#28
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Joined: Sep 2015
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From: B767 FO
Republic Pares Drop After Pilot Union Says Willing to Talk - Bloomberg Business
from the article,
“The only option for the airline may be renegotiating its contracts with its airline partners, and the only way to do that may be through the courts,”
seems to me AAG is trying to get a lock on potential cost increases (e.g. wages) before the financial environment changes in the pilots' favor.
from the article,
“The only option for the airline may be renegotiating its contracts with its airline partners, and the only way to do that may be through the courts,”
seems to me AAG is trying to get a lock on potential cost increases (e.g. wages) before the financial environment changes in the pilots' favor.
09-02-2015 | 04:36 PM
#29
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From: fatigued
Republic Pares Drop After Pilot Union Says Willing to Talk - Bloomberg Business
from the article,
“The only option for the airline may be renegotiating its contracts with its airline partners, and the only way to do that may be through the courts,”
seems to me AAG is trying to get a lock on potential cost increases (e.g. wages) before the financial environment changes in the pilots' favor.
from the article,
“The only option for the airline may be renegotiating its contracts with its airline partners, and the only way to do that may be through the courts,”
seems to me AAG is trying to get a lock on potential cost increases (e.g. wages) before the financial environment changes in the pilots' favor.
09-02-2015 | 07:02 PM
#30
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Joined: Aug 2006
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They won't go after wages, but rather work rules and benefits. I believe our pilot group is strong and will vote NO to any concessions whatsoever. Brad Tilden wants to lock in a concessionary contract now so they won't have to pay Skywest more money once their agreements become amendable as their costs have surely risen.
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