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Old 06-09-2017, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by greenroute View Post
Yeah your union that voted for concessions in 2016. That's a real winner.
Endeavor right? Yours would have done the same given the circumstances. While many of us believed Alaska could not afford to shut us down and voted no, Delta has a proven track record of shutting regionals down.

The more senior a regional airline gets, the weaker the pilot group becomes as pilots feel they have more to lose.
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Old 06-09-2017, 12:37 PM
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So why have they not updated the new payscale on APC? Did the new payscale already go into effect or is there a waiting period on that as well?
They haven't updated it for whatever reason but the new pay scales are live.
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Old 06-09-2017, 01:39 PM
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Hi,

I'm sure it's been mentioned somewhere in the 181 pages of this thread, but for those of you who know I would appreciate answering some questions.

-Ipad for Jepp. Provided?

-Healthcare premium for one with family? Estimate?

-Flight benefits equivalent to Alaska pilots? First come first serve for Jump Seat or only in QX metal?

-Are Dash going to be phased out with more jets or both operating indefinite?

-Q seat lock still 4 years?

-Any rumors for next E-175 base other than SEA?

Thanks!!!
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Old 06-09-2017, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DashAviator View Post
Word302 - Please keep in mind that our company is the problem here, not the union. Alaska and Horizon management have a long history of violating our contract. Our grievance process gives us a means to correct some of these wrongs. Yes, the process is painfully slow, but otherwise, where would we be?
Oh I totally get it. Try seeing my perspective though. We have a pretty good relationship with management (although don't get me started on their current "offer"). How do I convince my colleagues to give up 2% of their pay for a seemingly worse environment?
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Old 06-09-2017, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Taylor814ce View Post
Hi,

I'm sure it's been mentioned somewhere in the 181 pages of this thread, but for those of you who know I would appreciate answering some questions.

-Ipad for Jepp. Provided?

-Healthcare premium for one with family? Estimate?

-Flight benefits equivalent to Alaska pilots? First come first serve for Jump Seat or only in QX metal?

-Are Dash going to be phased out with more jets or both operating indefinite?

-Q seat lock still 4 years?

-Any rumors for next E-175 base other than SEA?

Thanks!!!
1. Ipad with jepp, provided.

2. Our new terrible contract shoehorns you new guys into a high deductible plan. I pay a per paycheck premium of 87 to cover myself and wife. With dependents (kids) its outrageous, sorry dont have those numbers. But its a lot. Your deductible is 4000 dollars, with a maximum out of pocket of 6000. You can open an HSA and FSA as well (which I HIGHLY recommend, if you can afford to put any money in there). You don't have to put any money in it, but the company is choosing to put in 1000 bucks a year (1500 with spouse or dependent). Keep in min they can opt to NOT put that in at any time, leaving you without anything to pay for the deductible gap.

3. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........no.
Currently an Alaska retiree or Alaska parent of employee has priority over a commuting pilot on QX planes.
Non-revving is a joke.

4. We have no idea. I don't think that Alaska even knows.
We know the Q has high yields, but also high mx costs and slightly lower than average cust satisfaction. They initially said they wanted to reduce Q air frames last year, but whether that was true or not is unknown.

5. Yes. If you get into the Q as an FO, you wait 4 years as an FO to get into an E175.

6. PAE was just announced as a new E175 base. Probably CO-Base (which means you may have to do reserve out of both). How 'bout that seaattle traffic, eh?
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Old 06-09-2017, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Griever View Post
1. Ipad with jepp, provided.

2. Our new terrible contract shoehorns you new guys into a high deductible plan. I pay a per paycheck premium of 87 to cover myself and wife. With dependents (kids) its outrageous, sorry dont have those numbers. But its a lot. Your deductible is 4000 dollars, with a maximum out of pocket of 6000. You can open an HSA and FSA as well (which I HIGHLY recommend, if you can afford to put any money in there). You don't have to put any money in it, but the company is choosing to put in 1000 bucks a year (1500 with spouse or dependent). Keep in min they can opt to NOT put that in at any time, leaving you without anything to pay for the deductible gap.

3. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........no.
Currently an Alaska retiree or Alaska parent of employee has priority over a commuting pilot on QX planes.
Non-revving is a joke.

4. We have no idea. I don't think that Alaska even knows.
We know the Q has high yields, but also high mx costs and slightly lower than average cust satisfaction. They initially said they wanted to reduce Q air frames last year, but whether that was true or not is unknown.

5. Yes. If you get into the Q as an FO, you wait 4 years as an FO to get into an E175.

6. PAE was just announced as a new E175 base. Probably CO-Base (which means you may have to do reserve out of both). How 'bout that seaattle traffic, eh?
Thank you.
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Old 06-09-2017, 05:52 PM
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Can anyone who has been in or is currently going thru ERJ class PM me? I would greatly appreciate few minutes of your time to discuss training and training foot print.

Thanks!
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Old 06-09-2017, 07:24 PM
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Can anyone who has been in or is currently going thru ERJ class PM me? I would greatly appreciate few minutes of your time to discuss training and training foot print.

Thanks!
I want to emphasize that, as a new hire you might never see the left seat if an E175. If you want to upgrade it will be in a Q400.

Know before you go, bro
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Old 06-09-2017, 07:53 PM
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Are y'all sure about the 4 year seat lock? The recruiters have consistently told me 2 years.
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Old 06-09-2017, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JRReaume View Post
Are y'all sure about the 4 year seat lock? The recruiters have consistently told me 2 years.
What?
You may be confusing seat lock with upgrade times there. If you stay in your seat, (ie, remain an FO), you can't change airframes for four years.

You would get out of your seat in two ~ two and a half when you upgrade. (To the left seat of the Q400.)
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