What's happening at Horizon and Jets?
06-13-2017, 08:25 PM
#1821
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: fatigued
Posts: 1,398
Originally Posted by FlyingDreaming
Contract has MAY language that gives the company the option to follow or not
The company is just flat out refusing to comply with the contract they signed.
06-13-2017, 09:15 PM
#1822
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Joined APC: Nov 2009
Posts: 203
Originally Posted by FlyingDreaming
New hires beware.
Management hanging schedules and not honoring promises
Talked to two pilots today in SEA done with IOE, flying 90 hours or more and only getting paid for 64 hours
Q400 Horizon is not honoring the new TA 4.2 hour a day guarantee is not being honored by the company
you will pay $1000 for uniforms and get to work for free.
Contract has MAY language that gives the company the option to follow or not
Management hanging schedules and not honoring promises
Talked to two pilots today in SEA done with IOE, flying 90 hours or more and only getting paid for 64 hours
Q400 Horizon is not honoring the new TA 4.2 hour a day guarantee is not being honored by the company
you will pay $1000 for uniforms and get to work for free.
Contract has MAY language that gives the company the option to follow or not
Working 90 credits after ioe before off training pay is real tho.
06-14-2017, 10:21 AM
#1823
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Joined APC: May 2017
Position: New hire 135 airline pilot
Posts: 25
Just part of another long-term cycle?
I am a recently retired Army aviator (1300TT (1050RW)) and have been looking forward to a career with Horizon/Alaska since the days of the Metroliner with the ugly orange logo. I am VERY disappointed to hear about what is currently transpiring between pilots and corporate leadership.
1) Has this kind of pilot treatment and lack of corporate integrity occurred in Horizon's history? If so, please provide some insights on past corporate motives, solutions, etc.
2) What were the short and long term effects in other airlines that suffered the same internal dysfunctions? How long before it's "over" for Horizon Airlines?
3) Which regional airlines do YOU Horizon pilots admire and recommend for a part121 newbie like myself?
Thanks for the great reads in this forum!
1) Has this kind of pilot treatment and lack of corporate integrity occurred in Horizon's history? If so, please provide some insights on past corporate motives, solutions, etc.
2) What were the short and long term effects in other airlines that suffered the same internal dysfunctions? How long before it's "over" for Horizon Airlines?
3) Which regional airlines do YOU Horizon pilots admire and recommend for a part121 newbie like myself?
Thanks for the great reads in this forum!
06-14-2017, 10:48 AM
#1824
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 186
Originally Posted by Privateer383
3) Which regional airlines do YOU Horizon pilots admire and recommend for a part121 newbie like myself?
Originally Posted by Privateer383
looking forward to a career with Horizon/Alaska
06-14-2017, 05:23 PM
#1825
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Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 41
Originally Posted by Privateer383
I am a recently retired Army aviator (1300TT (1050RW)) and have been looking forward to a career with Horizon/Alaska since the days of the Metroliner with the ugly orange logo. I am VERY disappointed to hear about what is currently transpiring between pilots and corporate leadership.
1) Has this kind of pilot treatment and lack of corporate integrity occurred in Horizon's history? If so, please provide some insights on past corporate motives, solutions, etc.
2) What were the short and long term effects in other airlines that suffered the same internal dysfunctions? How long before it's "over" for Horizon Airlines?
3) Which regional airlines do YOU Horizon pilots admire and recommend for a part121 newbie like myself?
Thanks for the great reads in this forum!
1) Has this kind of pilot treatment and lack of corporate integrity occurred in Horizon's history? If so, please provide some insights on past corporate motives, solutions, etc.
2) What were the short and long term effects in other airlines that suffered the same internal dysfunctions? How long before it's "over" for Horizon Airlines?
3) Which regional airlines do YOU Horizon pilots admire and recommend for a part121 newbie like myself?
Thanks for the great reads in this forum!
Maybe go to a local flight school and see if any of the instructors can direct you to a former employee, as some people were furloughed years back and never went back. They might be able to give you contact info for current pilots that don't frequent these pages.
06-15-2017, 10:08 PM
#1826
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 27
Originally Posted by oldgb
My best advice is to not judge an entire company based on what you read on the forums. There is a lot of negativity for every company on each of the respective pages. If these pages were the only source for recruiting no one would ever apply to any airline. I have a few friends who fly for Horizon and absolutely love it. They never plan on leaving and want to retire from Horizon.
Maybe go to a local flight school and see if any of the instructors can direct you to a former employee, as some people were furloughed years back and never went back. They might be able to give you contact info for current pilots that don't frequent these pages.
Maybe go to a local flight school and see if any of the instructors can direct you to a former employee, as some people were furloughed years back and never went back. They might be able to give you contact info for current pilots that don't frequent these pages.
06-16-2017, 09:25 AM
#1827
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: 7th green
Posts: 4,378
Originally Posted by Sikorsky38
Horizon used to have an old CEO named George Bagley. Kind of makes me wonder, this post does.
A real gem.
06-16-2017, 10:02 AM
#1828
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: 767A (Ret)
Posts: 6,248
Originally Posted by Packrat
The guy who accused the pilots of being "juvenile delinquents in uniforms" in the Magazine on the planes.
06-16-2017, 12:11 PM
#1830
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: 7th green
Posts: 4,378
Originally Posted by tomgoodman
He shouldn't have said it, even though that view is widely held by spouses, F/As, and APC moderators.
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