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Old 06-06-2017, 08:29 PM
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It's all about that "More Money, More Time Off"...why go and sit reserve on the jeeeeeeet, when I can more or less choose when I want days off/etc.

Once QX gets off their backsides and incorporates our 4.2 min day rig, for now the trips will be paying more.

Supposedly it takes 6 months to write software to make that kind of change (nevermind that the FA's have a 4hr min day, and have had for some time...)
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Old 06-06-2017, 11:49 PM
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It's all about that "More Money, More Time Off"...why go and sit reserve on the jeeeeeeet, when I can more or less choose when I want days off/etc.

Once QX gets off their backsides and incorporates our 4.2 min day rig, for now the trips will be paying more.

Supposedly it takes 6 months to write software to make that kind of change (nevermind that the FA's have a 4hr min day, and have had for some time...)
They just don't want to pay the 4.2 for summer flying. We will probably get it after. Be sure to fly safe during these busy upcoming months!
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Old 06-07-2017, 04:25 AM
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I cant belwive we have to wait up to 6 months for 1 part of the LOA to take affect. Who wants to bet we will get the 4.2 min day credit by August? Just enough time for them to quite building inneficient trips. This is just another insult from qx management.
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Old 06-08-2017, 05:16 PM
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How is there not a massive grievance over this?
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How is there not a massive grievance over this?
There is, we probably have mass grievances on 5-6 big contract items now and the company just doesn't care "Grieve it, and don't you dare refuse to fly a trip."
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Old 06-08-2017, 09:10 PM
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There is, we probably have mass grievances on 5-6 big contract items now and the company just doesn't care "Grieve it, and don't you dare refuse to fly a trip."
This is why I don't understand how some of you can be so hostile towards OO pilots for being non union. While I would actually vote yes and even help with a drive, I read things like this and wonder what the hell the point is.
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Old 06-08-2017, 11:18 PM
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This is why I don't understand how some of you can be so hostile towards OO pilots for being non union. While I would actually vote yes and even help with a drive, I read things like this and wonder what the hell the point is.
Eventually it will get arbitrated and we will get paid, the time process is the killer though.

In the mean time we will just have to continue flying extra safe and do our jobs EXACTLY how we're supposed to do them.

Also, I've talked to a lot of our bittervets who would describe what Horizon management was like without a union. It was worse, way worse. As in practicing a type of evil and injustice towards a work group that you would only expect to see in movies and you would still be like "there's no way that could happen in real life."
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Old 06-09-2017, 06:06 AM
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This is why I don't understand how some of you can be so hostile towards OO pilots for being non union. While I would actually vote yes and even help with a drive, I read things like this and wonder what the hell the point is.
Word302 - Please keep in mind that our company is the problem here, not the union. Alaska and Horizon management have a long history of violating our contract. Our grievance process gives us a means to correct some of these wrongs. Yes, the process is painfully slow, but otherwise, where would we be?
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Old 06-09-2017, 06:29 AM
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So why have they not updated the new payscale on APC? Did the new payscale already go into effect or is there a waiting period on that as well?
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Old 06-09-2017, 07:17 AM
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Yeah your union that voted for concessions in 2016. That's a real winner.
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