Profit sharing in BCSS
02-24-2018 | 05:05 PM
#51
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Got a call from an FO on this exact thing lately. Checked with other Union guys and the word is to call pro standards and let them deal with it.
Don't think an FO who does that is going to get busted by the Feds. Worst I've heard so far is the offending captain gets hauled in and the FO is asked to corroborate that this happened.
Don't think an FO who does that is going to get busted by the Feds. Worst I've heard so far is the offending captain gets hauled in and the FO is asked to corroborate that this happened.
02-24-2018 | 11:02 PM
#52
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Not to beat down on the proverbial horse but, I did some digging of both ALPA and B6 emails and it was telling.
1) The Executive Team was less than clear as to what that 8% pay increase was offsetting.
It truly read as compensation for the change of 15% to 10% in the PS.
That of course was not what was meant.
2) On a LEC 191 update, the real math was already explained, though it was published after the LOA had passed. Not that it would’ve made a lick of difference if it would had happened sooner.
It’s evident that at least at the CFO level the E team is not owning up to the employees and clearly stating the strategy .
1) The Executive Team was less than clear as to what that 8% pay increase was offsetting.
It truly read as compensation for the change of 15% to 10% in the PS.
That of course was not what was meant.
2) On a LEC 191 update, the real math was already explained, though it was published after the LOA had passed. Not that it would’ve made a lick of difference if it would had happened sooner.
It’s evident that at least at the CFO level the E team is not owning up to the employees and clearly stating the strategy .
02-25-2018 | 05:52 AM
#53
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Not to beat down on the proverbial horse but, I did some digging of both ALPA and B6 emails and it was telling.
1) The Executive Team was less than clear as to what that 8% pay increase was offsetting.
It truly read as compensation for the change of 15% to 10% in the PS.
That of course was not what was meant.
2) On a LEC 191 update, the real math was already explained, though it was published after the LOA had passed. Not that it would’ve made a lick of difference if it would had happened sooner.
It’s evident that at least at the CFO level the E team is not owning up to the employees and clearly stating the strategy .
1) The Executive Team was less than clear as to what that 8% pay increase was offsetting.
It truly read as compensation for the change of 15% to 10% in the PS.
That of course was not what was meant.
2) On a LEC 191 update, the real math was already explained, though it was published after the LOA had passed. Not that it would’ve made a lick of difference if it would had happened sooner.
It’s evident that at least at the CFO level the E team is not owning up to the employees and clearly stating the strategy .
02-25-2018 | 07:24 AM
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02-25-2018 | 08:56 AM
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What per diem? We make 15% less domestically and 33% less internationally (and their international is OCONUS, no carve outs for PR etc). Is their rationale that we stay in shtty hotels in shtty locations next to shtty chain restaurants so we don't need much per diem?
We are so far behind in every metric it's pathetic.
We are so far behind in every metric it's pathetic.
02-25-2018 | 09:19 AM
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What per diem? We make 15% less domestically and 33% less internationally (and their international is OCONUS, no carve outs for PR etc). Is their rationale that we stay in shtty hotels in shtty locations next to shtty chain restaurants so we don't need much per diem?
We are so far behind in every metric it's pathetic.
We are so far behind in every metric it's pathetic.
02-25-2018 | 10:42 AM
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I usually ask the guys I fly with for updates on this stuff since I'm relatively new, but he's in the back cleaning. Based on the email this is what I understood- we got the 8% raise and gave up some profit sharing. The 8% is guaranteed additional money, whereas profit sharing amount is not always guaranteed.
This smells like **** to me, so would anybody like to break down the 8% raise/profit sharing cuts? Was it actually a swap/trade like the company makes it sound? Curious
Edit- how do I ask for times from the company, I need to update my resume.
This smells like **** to me, so would anybody like to break down the 8% raise/profit sharing cuts? Was it actually a swap/trade like the company makes it sound? Curious
Edit- how do I ask for times from the company, I need to update my resume.
Last edited by Bilbo T Baggins; 02-25-2018 at 11:02 AM.
02-25-2018 | 10:49 AM
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I usually ask the guys I fly with for updates on this stuff since I'm relatively new, but he's in the back cleaning. Based on the email this is what I understood- we got the 8% raise and gave up some profit sharing. The 8% is guaranteed additional money, whereas profit sharing amount is not always guaranteed.
This smells like **** to me, so would anybody like to break down the 8% raise/profit sharing cuts? Was it actually a swap/trade like the company makes it sound? Curious
This smells like **** to me, so would anybody like to break down the 8% raise/profit sharing cuts? Was it actually a swap/trade like the company makes it sound? Curious
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