pilotpayne

Also every update about the surveys said that we had high expectations or something like that. I understand we are pilots but don’t worry just to worry. Let’s see what is in it first.

seekingblue

How long after the MEC gets briefed Can we expect to see bullet points released to the pilot group?

benzoate

"The MEC will meet this week to review the AIP and determine the timeline for release of further information."

Thats all I know my friend. I suspect once the LEC's see the document information will slowly trickle out.

seekingblue

I guess I could have just read the email... but that’s too much effort.

I certainly hope the MEC is going to release bullet points in the next week or so as opposed to waiting for the full contract language to get resolved before releasing.

benzoate

I didn't want to pick on you so early in the morning.

Im hoping as well. I've been waiting over 15 years for this. Im anxious.

CaptCoolHand

I have not seen the survey results but have been told on multiple occasions by different sources that have seen them. The survey results have very high expectations.

This group expects to be compensated in line with every other major carrier. Your NC has signed off on what they believe to be a market rate contract. In the next few days Your MEC will decide if the NC did their jobs and vote on sending it to the group for ratification.

Take a breath. Relax. just wait till info becomes available. You can be spooled up about it... but you’re still gonna have to wait.

The701Express

Don't forget about the survey many of us took back in January and the many more pilots who wanted, but were unable to join us. That's not behavior indicative of a pilot group that's resigned itself to accepting a below average contract.

The message this pilot group sent that day wasn't just toward management, displaying our anger and discontentment, but was also a show of support to the negotiating committee, MEC, and all of the other ALPA volunteers who have been working at and/or away from the bargaining table to bring us to this point.

Having spoken with some of them at the picket and afterwards, I don't think that message has been forgotten.

Passer, the internet by its nature tends to blow the extreme and ridiculous positions out of proportion and give them more prominence than they would have in the real world. It's the behavior and actions of this pilot group and our union leadership that has earned my respect and causes me to place my trust in them. Without knowing anything else, that's all I'm willing to say until more information is presented to me.

No matter how much we speculate about what caused and AIP to be reached this month, or what it contains, it doesn't change the fact that we have zero information regarding any of it.

None of us knows the results from the latest survey.

None of us knows what is contained within this AIP.

What we do know is that a pivotal point in many of our careers is upon us. Let's get this right so we can look back at the end of our careers with pride rather than regret. Whether that's a yes or no vote, none of us can make that call until we have the TA in front of us.

We can't allow speculation to muddy the waters and negatively affect ourselves before we have some very important, fact based discussions regarding a TA, if/when that is presented to the pilot group.

My suggestion:

We've all been rowing hard for over three years, some of us even longer than that. We deserve a breather. The weather is beautiful again, it's the pre-summer lull, we all have our own ways of recovering and grounding ourselves. Whatever it is, do that, because once the details of a TA are released, it'll be either a mad dash to the finish line, or more rowing, depending how we vote. Regardless, we need to be rested and ready to pass this test. We may soon each have the honor of voting for or against the first Jetblue pilot CBA. Our collective efforts have set the bar pretty high so far, let's not falter after achieving so much already.

benzoate

As I proceed back to work today nothing has changed for me. Hoping for the best, expecting the worst and still flying 100% SOP.

Bluedriver

My good-will is UNAVAILABLE until my new pay rate is IN EFFECT.

benzoate

Its not unavailable its just moved. Like the premium trigger.