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Old 05-19-2018 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
There is a pilot shortage and this is the best negotiating environment ever.

Why would you accept one penny less than industry standard hourly rates??

You can do much better.

IMHO
Awesome.

Someone who isn’t here telling us how we should negotiate. Without seeing the 300+ pages w/full language.

Where do you work, sir? I’d like to randomly dissect something about your company, despite being largely uninformed.
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Old 05-19-2018 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by N311JB
And for me if weighing this as if we already should have industry standard and that’s how I’m judging the points so far. This is probably naive of me because don’t have industry standards. I feel like we fought for something we should have already had. That’s my hang up. Anyone else judging this thing like that?
Ya that's where I'm at. It's hard to be happy about this when this is the contract we should have had 1-3 years ago. So company played this very well.
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Old 05-19-2018 | 06:22 AM
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Another pay issue (I know. . pay isn't the entire contract). . . The current 5% which is PS, as well as monthly input to our 401k. Now that we are getting a 15% direct contribution, where will this 5% go? Will we get it with the rest of the PS at the end of the year? If not, then we haven't really gained anything other than the guarantee from the contract that we will get it rather than Board approval. We will have gained 2% but then lost 5%. Am I seeing something wrong there?
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Old 05-19-2018 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Rickce7
Another pay issue (I know. . pay isn't the entire contract). . . The current 5% which is PS, as well as monthly input to our 401k. Now that we are getting a 15% direct contribution, where will this 5% go? Will we get it with the rest of the PS at the end of the year? If not, then we haven't really gained anything other than the guarantee from the contract that we will get it rather than Board approval. We will have gained 2% but then lost 5%. Am I seeing something wrong there?
Basically...in order to get the current 12.5% company contribution to your 401k, you have to put in 5% - totaling 17.5%. They'll now put 15% directly into your 401k.

Want to keep putting 17.5% in your 401k? You only need to put 2.5% in, which means you got a 2.5% raise.

Maybe my math is wrong, but that's how I understand the new 401k contribution.
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Old 05-19-2018 | 06:58 AM
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I wonder if they'll keep JRA/Prem when rescheduled outside your footprint. Twice in the past two months I've been rescheduled to complete a different turn that finished 20 minutes later. I've had it on Reserve too, rescheduled to finish outside my footprint on day 2 of 5 of RSV.
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Old 05-19-2018 | 07:01 AM
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None of this is going to matter with Joanna Garitty being named COO and Pres. You know have a former mil guy with Zero airline experience and a lawyer with Zero airline experience running (guess what) an airline.
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Old 05-19-2018 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by nuball5
I wonder if they'll keep JRA/Prem when rescheduled outside your footprint. Twice in the past two months I've been rescheduled to complete a different turn that finished 20 minutes later. I've had it on Reserve too, rescheduled to finish outside my footprint on day 2 of 5 of RSV.
Yes, and I heard it will be 200% pay
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Old 05-19-2018 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by benzoate
None of this is going to matter with Joanna Garitty being named COO and Pres. You know have a former mil guy with Zero airline experience and a lawyer with Zero airline experience running (guess what) an airline.
Hasn't the lawyer been with JetBlue since 2005? Was JetBlue an airline back then and if so, would this count as airline experience?
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Old 05-19-2018 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Softpayman
Hasn't the lawyer been with JetBlue since 2005? Was JetBlue an airline back then and if so, would this count as airline experience?
Come on, now. Running human resources at an airline isn't the same as running an airline operation.

It's like they want the place to fail.
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Old 05-19-2018 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Dyrek2
Basically...in order to get the current 12.5% company contribution to your 401k, you have to put in 5% - totaling 17.5%. They'll now put 15% directly into your 401k.

Want to keep putting 17.5% in your 401k? You only need to put 2.5% in, which means you got a 2.5% raise.

Maybe my math is wrong, but that's how I understand the new 401k contribution.
WTF? Current contribution is 13%.
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