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02-04-2023 | 03:19 PM

#1721

Bluediver

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Originally Posted by Excargodog

Just looking ahead to the SLI, could anybody give the current CA DOHs for JetBlue?

Nothing is given, only earned.

02-04-2023 | 03:56 PM

#1722

Excargodog

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Originally Posted by Bluediver

Nothing is given, only earned.

Well, in that case,

Thanks for nothing…

02-04-2023 | 04:02 PM

#1723

Flyby1206

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From: 320 CA

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Originally Posted by Excargodog

Just looking ahead to the SLI, could anybody give the current CA DOHs for JetBlue?

Most junior pilot in seat as of today (approx 4600 total pilots):
BOS 320 CA #2963 8/16
BOS 320 SQ CA #2766 10/15
EWR 320 CA #2825 1/16
FLL 320 CA #2925 6/16
JFK 320 CA #3155 7/17
JFK 320 SQ CA #2718 5/15
LAX 320 CA #2919 6/16
MCO 320 CA #1590 2/08
BOS 223 CA #2796 11/15
BOS 190 CA #3649 6/19
JFK 190 CA #3685 9/19

02-04-2023 | 04:18 PM

#1724

I was inverted

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Originally Posted by Flyby1206

4,828 seniority list pilots as of today. And to clarify for the spirit guys, there are a lot more junior guys than those awarded CA seats awaiting training.

02-04-2023 | 04:53 PM

#1725

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4,828 seniority list pilots as of today. And to clarify for the spirit guys, there are a lot more junior guys than those awarded CA seats awaiting training.

Not super inspiring though. All those 190 guys have to go somewhere, and at 5+ years to be the most junior Captain anywhere, not the best news. With 3,000+ pilots coming in from spirit, I can’t imagine that it suddenly gets better?

02-04-2023 | 05:10 PM

#1726

RiddleEagle18

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Originally Posted by BernieM86

they will go to the 220. Equal exchange in airframes.

after the 2019 guys upgrade(which they already are) it will jump 2 years to post Covid hires, who already hold awards and will be captains by the end of the year.

A 12/2021 hire holds a captain award for December 2023. The way our awards work means he will be trained an qualified by 12/23. He starts training in October.

yes that’s for a 190 now, but again the 190’s will all be swapped equally for 220‘a so you will see the 220 upgrade start to drop as more come online.

02-04-2023 | 05:29 PM

#1727

I was inverted

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Yeah, that’s probably why attrition is the way it is at both carriers.

02-05-2023 | 09:48 AM

#1728

Bluedriver

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Originally Posted by Flyby1206

I would just add some info. I think there are 4,800+ pilots now.

And those are the Jr CAs on the line right now, I believe. JB has many CAs awarded class dates for later this year, some were hired in 2021.

02-05-2023 | 10:06 AM

#1729

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BOS 190 CA went to a 7/2022 hire, no?

02-05-2023 | 10:17 AM

#1730

Flyby1206

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Originally Posted by Bluedriver

Yes, 4805 as of Jan 2023 seniority list. I’m not sure why PVBM shows lower. Probably because ~200 of those guys haven’t completed IOE yet.

As for the future vacancy awards, all true it is projected as going more junior than today but until butts are in the seat it doesn’t count in my mind.

Last edited by Flyby1206; 02-05-2023 at 10:29 AM.