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Old 02-10-2023, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght View Post
While the term fortress hub doesn’t really apply, and I disagree with the other guy about the “govt” forcing forfeiture of gates, your assertion of how concentrated both airlines are in FLL is way, way off. I don’t know how you define “concentrated” but Jet Blue could cancel every existing FLL route they run, keep only the current Spirit routes, and FLL would still have more daily flights than about half that list combined with the merged company.
Combined NK+JB have ~49% market share in FLL.

Which named airport do you think the dominant airline (plus it's regionals) controls less than 49%?

I will say 49% starts to smell a little like a fortress hub, IF it was the primary airport in the region, which it most definitely is NOT.
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Old 02-10-2023, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght View Post
Maybe, but no other airlines have been mentioned. I don’t even know how “concentrated” is defined as a metric when referring to a specific airport.
Market share control is the most standard metric. And yes, I was referring to the dominant airline (not JB or NK) at those airports.

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Old 02-10-2023, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght View Post
The latest DOT joint application filing made a pretty compelling case for how FLL would greatly benefit from the merger. As it is we practically fly formation with each other on a number of routes, as well as compete for the limited international arrival gates at the same times. Combined we could offer both more connections and more international destinations while still freeing up gate space for other carriers. What wasn’t mentioned is spreading out the flights and connections would likely smooth out the high demand on infrastructure (security,customs,baggage handling) during the peak pushes, where as now Terminal 3/4 has two modes, frenzied chaos and post apocalyptic vacant.
FLL, for JB, will certainly benefit from the merger. The higher market share an airline controls in a metro catchment area, the better they typically do financially. It's one of JB's great financial weaknesses, they have nothing even approaching a fortress hub, where most other airlines (outside ULCC) have several. At 49% market share, FLL still won't be a fortress hub (especially when you add MIA to the catchment area), but it will start to smell like one and be very helpful. BOS was probably on a trajectory to be JB's first fortress hub, but Delta saw that play and made it so it will very likely never be.
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Old 02-13-2023, 08:43 AM
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2/15 Class Drop

A320
BOS
BOS-SQ
EWR
JFK
JFK-SQ
LAX

E190
BOS
JFK
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Old 02-13-2023, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by CommanderLoo View Post
2/15 Class Drop

A320
BOS
BOS-SQ
EWR
JFK
JFK-SQ
LAX

E190
BOS
JFK
numbers?


word on the street in new hires will be slowing down. No longer shooting for 1,000 this year. Anybody else hear that?
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Old 02-13-2023, 12:36 PM
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Just interviewed on the 9th, Pilot Hiring said is was going down to 500 for 2023.

Also what does the "SQ" following the Hub mean?
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Old 02-13-2023, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 View Post
numbers?


word on the street in new hires will be slowing down. No longer shooting for 1,000 this year. Anybody else hear that?


Just interviewed on the 9th, Pilot Hiring said 500 new hires for 2023.

What does the "SQ" new to the base mean?
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Old 02-13-2023, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 View Post
numbers?


word on the street in new hires will be slowing down. No longer shooting for 1,000 this year. Anybody else hear that?
Little over 700, planning on 450 or so attrition. So, planning to net 200-300ish.

when you look at the delivery plan and the retirement plan, it’s basically a wash, so I’m surprised they are planning even that much. Maybe they thought they’d have to hire to cover a labor dispute. Or maybe they just want to get ahead of the deliveries that have been pushed into 2024.
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Old 02-13-2023, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 View Post
numbers?


word on the street in new hires will be slowing down. No longer shooting for 1,000 this year. Anybody else hear that?

No numbers on slots yet. Probably tomorrow sometime
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Old 02-13-2023, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by I was inverted View Post
Little over 700, planning on 450 or so attrition. So, planning to net 200-300ish.

when you look at the delivery plan and the retirement plan, it’s basically a wash, so I’m surprised they are planning even that much. Maybe they thought they’d have to hire to cover a labor dispute. Or maybe they just want to get ahead of the deliveries that have been pushed into 2024.
Yikes... A whole 200...

Take THAT DL and UAL.
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