Originally Posted by Rabid Seagull (Post 2622996)

I bid reserve for flexibility. Now considering a downgrade because the new reserve rules suck:



Downgrade now has a "2 year freeze".



Hmmm? 2 years? Well,...



Contract has one system bid a year on Aug1st ( once an f'n year)

Aug1st, 2018 I bid a downgrade.

Dec1st, 2018 I begin training for downgrade.

Dec1st, 2020 released from " freeze", but can't bid it until next system bid.



Aug1st, 2021 I can now bid for an upgrade.



This thing sucks!!

Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2623051)

Cut some of your quote, just to save space

Not saying NK has a better contract overall, but there definitely seems a lot of ambiguity/company interpretation in your Commuter Policy. for reference, this is us:

Commuter Policy
1. A pilot commuting to duty shall plan for a minimum of two separate flights that
will arrive at his domicile in advance of his normal report time. If the first flight is
oversold, delayed, or canceled, or if the pilot is denied a jumpseat or boarding for
any reason, he shall notify Crew Scheduling as soon as practical.
2. Crew Scheduling, at its discretion, shall take one of the following actions:
a. Purchase a ticket for the pilot on the next available flight.
b. Advise the pilot to attempt to board the second flight through normal
means (e.g., jumpseat, nonrev travel, or OA passes).
3. If for any reason, a pilot is denied boarding on the second planned commuter
flight, he shall immediately notify Crew Scheduling, and Crew Scheduling shall
assign one of the following options:
a. Assign the pilot an open trip pairing, in consideration of the remaining
commuter flights available, and any required rest and duty limitations, so
that a pilot will arrive at his domicile in advance of his normal report time
for the newly assigned trip.
b. Assign the pilot to reserve duty for no more than the same number of
calendar days of his original missed trip pairing (e.g., a pilot who misses
a scheduled trip pairing of three calendar days may be assigned to no
more than three calendar reserve duty days).
c. Release the pilot from all duty in a non-pay status for the missed trip
pairing (i.e., deduct the pay credit for the missed trip pairing from his
pay).
4. A pilot who keeps accurate records of his scheduled commuter flights and
otherwise complies with the provisions of this commuter policy shall not be
subject to discipline for missing trip pairings due to denied boarding.
5. A pilot may use the commuter policy as necessary with no limitations.

Originally Posted by Rabid Seagull (Post 2622996)

I bid reserve for flexibility. Now considering a downgrade because the new reserve rules suck:

Downgrade now has a "2 year freeze".

Hmmm? 2 years? Well,...

Contract has one system bid a year on Aug1st ( once an f'n year)
Aug1st, 2018 I bid a downgrade.
Dec1st, 2018 I begin training for downgrade.
Dec1st, 2020 released from " freeze", but can't bid it until next system bid.

Aug1st, 2021 I can now bid for an upgrade.

This thing sucks!!

Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2622999)

Standby to be shouted down by the Auto-YES crowd.

Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 2623081)

Hey you found another group to shout you down....always that victim:)

Originally Posted by jtrain609 (Post 2623048)

Yeah so, I just spent the last year at the bottom of a category on reserve and our current system is pretty much horrible. Everything in this TA makes it better, and I'd like to know some specifics about what you think will make it worse.

Originally Posted by Softpayman (Post 2623082)

Was about to say the same thing...shouted down? Really?

Originally Posted by Rabid Seagull (Post 2622996)

I bid reserve for flexibility. Now considering a downgrade because the new reserve rules suck:

Downgrade now has a "2 year freeze".

Hmmm? 2 years? Well,...

Contract has one system bid a year on Aug1st ( once an f'n year)
Aug1st, 2018 I bid a downgrade.
Dec1st, 2018 I begin training for downgrade.
Dec1st, 2020 released from " freeze", but can't bid it until next system bid.

Aug1st, 2021 I can now bid for an upgrade.

This thing sucks!!

Originally Posted by Rabid Seagull (Post 2622996)

I bid reserve for flexibility. Now considering a downgrade because the new reserve rules suck:

Downgrade now has a "2 year freeze".

Hmmm? 2 years? Well,...

Contract has one system bid a year on Aug1st ( once an f'n year)
Aug1st, 2018 I bid a downgrade.
Dec1st, 2018 I begin training for downgrade.
Dec1st, 2020 released from " freeze", but can't bid it until next system bid.

Aug1st, 2021 I can now bid for an upgrade.

This thing sucks!!

Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2622999)

Standby to be shouted down by the Auto-YES crowd.