Why I'm voting Yes
07-03-2018 | 10:25 PM
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07-03-2018 | 11:52 PM
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Trump’s trade war policies are going to push us into a recession and this will be the best deal we will see for quite a while.
If this TA gets voted down, the company will be able to withdraw their offer and then we are negotiating in a much worse economic climate. To draw out talks and go back to the drawing board for just marginal improvements is foolish, in my opinion.
Not only could the company lower their monetary stance, but the following will also happen if we drag this out:
I'm taking the deal. A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush.
Here are some facts:
The economic recovery and bull market which followed the 2008 meltdown was stretched and getting really long in the tooth by any measure. Inflation is picking up and interest rates have started to creep up. Then Trump decides on a full-blown trade war, which nobody wins.
The deal on the table is good enough, for now. I'm taking the money. Trump is clueless and vindictive and we are all gonna pay dearly for it. This is just my opinion and obviously not everybody will see things this way. Everybody needs to make their own informed decision. I’m voting Yes.
In Unity,
Sun Tzu
PS I’m not on blue pilots but if anyone wants to copy and paste it there, feel free.
PPS No, I’m not a “company plant" who just joined this board to get this so-so deal to pass. I’m just a dork who has way too much time on his hands and spends it reading about cheese farmers in Wisconsin.
If this TA gets voted down, the company will be able to withdraw their offer and then we are negotiating in a much worse economic climate. To draw out talks and go back to the drawing board for just marginal improvements is foolish, in my opinion.
Not only could the company lower their monetary stance, but the following will also happen if we drag this out:
- We will still have a healthcare plan that’s outside of a CBA. Yes, this plan still stinks, but I would rather have a lousy health care plan within the CBA than outside of it during an economic downturn.
- We will not have scope codified in a CBA.
- We will not have 15% 401k match.
I'm taking the deal. A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush.
Here are some facts:
- Oil is up 45% since Trump took office.
- Iowa pork producers are on track to lose over $500 million this year.
- Harley Davidson is moving production from Kansas and Wisconsin to overseas factories to get around tariff retaliations imposed by other nations. Polaris (Indian motorcycles, snow mobiles, etc) is following suit.
- Next up, Trump is going to go full-blown trade war in the auto sector. (Brace for impact)
- Bourbon distillers are readying for 25% tariffs slapped onto their products.
- Kentucky dairy farmers are selling out and closing down.
- Wisconsin cheese makers aren’t sure how they’re going to make up the lost sales.
The economic recovery and bull market which followed the 2008 meltdown was stretched and getting really long in the tooth by any measure. Inflation is picking up and interest rates have started to creep up. Then Trump decides on a full-blown trade war, which nobody wins.
The deal on the table is good enough, for now. I'm taking the money. Trump is clueless and vindictive and we are all gonna pay dearly for it. This is just my opinion and obviously not everybody will see things this way. Everybody needs to make their own informed decision. I’m voting Yes.
In Unity,
Sun Tzu
PS I’m not on blue pilots but if anyone wants to copy and paste it there, feel free.
PPS No, I’m not a “company plant" who just joined this board to get this so-so deal to pass. I’m just a dork who has way too much time on his hands and spends it reading about cheese farmers in Wisconsin.
07-03-2018 | 11:58 PM
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There are already thousands of Americans who have lost, or whom are losing their jobs and businesses because of his moronic isolation..
Im already paying more in taxes, and now Im gonna take a pay cut with this contract...but I probably will vote yes because of scope and because this economy will not continue in the direction it is in. In fact, the stock market has NOT improved since the tax cuts. There really is no logical explanation as to why the stock market did so well after the election other than they were happy that none of the rules would be enforced.
Im already paying more in taxes, and now Im gonna take a pay cut with this contract...but I probably will vote yes because of scope and because this economy will not continue in the direction it is in. In fact, the stock market has NOT improved since the tax cuts. There really is no logical explanation as to why the stock market did so well after the election other than they were happy that none of the rules would be enforced.
You also should do some research. Gdp projections have gone from 3.5% to 5%.
We are entering the best economy in decades.
07-04-2018 | 02:33 AM
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Businesses around the country are closing up shop. It’s like the depression all over again.
Come on let’s put on our rich white guy hats and go poke the kids in the cage that we stole from their parents! I bet they cry.
Again... just in case. Sarcasm off.
07-04-2018 | 03:49 AM
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https://www.marketwatch.com/story/th...ays-2018-07-03
"The possibility that the current trade dispute between the U.S. and its global partners could become something bigger is problematic for the industry’s top line given how closely correlated it is to imports and exports of goods and services,” Linenberg wrote in a note to clients. “Furthermore, the growing trade dispute may cause U.S. companies to reconsider their [capital expenditure] and employment plans, which would adversely impact corporate travel.”
Trump is clueless and vindictive. If he expands this trade war into the auto sector: Brace for impact.
I'm voting Yes. A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush. But that is just my opinion and everyone should weigh the pros and cons of everything and make their own informed decision.
-Sun Tzu
07-04-2018 | 05:20 AM
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Where in the world did you get that idea?
https://data.oecd.org/gdp/real-gdp-forecast.htm
The tax cuts will keep things humming for a while and will likely exacerbate the inevitable downturn with a soaring debt to GDP ratio. Nobody knows when or how bad the next recession will be.
https://data.oecd.org/gdp/real-gdp-forecast.htm
The tax cuts will keep things humming for a while and will likely exacerbate the inevitable downturn with a soaring debt to GDP ratio. Nobody knows when or how bad the next recession will be.
07-04-2018 | 05:38 AM
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The truth is that Trump, like him or not, is re-plumbing the economy to give the USA the equal footing it has lost over the last 40 years. E.U. countries and China steal from the USA by imposing super high tariffs on our exports while we have little or NO tariffs on imports. When Americans are allowed to compete on equal grounds (e.g. no slave labor from China or government subsidized companies in E.U.), we kick a$$.
Also, China doesn't need to worry about domestic politics. The U.S. President does and Trump ****ed away all his leverage against China by scuttling TPP and alienating our former allies. Heck we have a trade surplus with Canada. His 'easy' trade war is already costing him votes as people slowly figure out that reality is a bit more complicated than they were led to believe.
P.S. I love your disclaimer at the bottom of your posts. It is as silly as it is legally useless, but I am sure at least one person is impressed by it.
07-04-2018 | 02:11 PM
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It's already beginning to affect the airline sector.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-big-3-airlines-to-suffer-from-growing-trade-dispute-analyst-
says-2018-07-03
"The possibility that the current trade dispute between the U.S. and its global partners could become something bigger is problematic for the industry’s top line given how closely correlated it is to imports and exports of goods and services,” Linenberg wrote in a note to clients. “Furthermore, the growing trade dispute may cause U.S. companies to reconsider their [capital expenditure] and employment plans, which would adversely impact corporate travel.”
Trump is clueless and vindictive. If he expands this trade war into the auto sector: Brace for impact.
I'm voting Yes. A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush. But that is just my opinion and everyone should weigh the pros and cons of everything and make their own informed decision.
-Sun Tzu
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-big-3-airlines-to-suffer-from-growing-trade-dispute-analyst-
says-2018-07-03
"The possibility that the current trade dispute between the U.S. and its global partners could become something bigger is problematic for the industry’s top line given how closely correlated it is to imports and exports of goods and services,” Linenberg wrote in a note to clients. “Furthermore, the growing trade dispute may cause U.S. companies to reconsider their [capital expenditure] and employment plans, which would adversely impact corporate travel.”
Trump is clueless and vindictive. If he expands this trade war into the auto sector: Brace for impact.
I'm voting Yes. A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush. But that is just my opinion and everyone should weigh the pros and cons of everything and make their own informed decision.
-Sun Tzu
You mean that you place your faith in all those analysts and the Democrat's media echo chamber to tell you the truth?
Weren't they wrong about... EVERYTHING??
Like Trump or not, the plumbing is being fixed on the country's leaking frame. We can't subsidize the world and we shouldn't. If they want to have 40% tariffs on our goods, why shouldn't we reciprocate and make it even? Why is fairness not allowed to be applied to the USA?
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