Why I'm voting Yes
07-03-2018 | 10:34 AM
#51
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What is union elected servants sell you out? Are you saying that it never happens elsewhere? You know, there are plenty of examples.
You should consider the logic of Voting NO now, refining the contract, then Vote YES. There's no reason to accept substandard offerings. This is part of the game of negotiation. For all you YES voters, just watch a few episodes of Pawn Stars to learn bargaining 101. There's also literally thousands of books on the subject. No one says Yes the first time, particularly with all the serious deficiencies of TA 1.0. We can renegotiate a few things to get a vastly superior TA 2.0. Unity is more than just wearing a lanyard, it means that you have the intellectual fortitude not to accept table scraps.
Also, read the Railway Labor Act. You'll see that the entire negotiating paradigm is VOLUNTARY and is not prescribed by law. The law lets us challenge proposals and even our own union if they deliver substandard results. We don't need a coup, we just need to Vote NO, renegotiate, then get a bigger better TA 2.0.
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07-03-2018 | 10:41 AM
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No. This contract isn't substandard. It's pretty much middle of the road. Some good, some less good, but overall middle of the road and far ahead of our current book.
If we end up negotiating in a downturn, we could end up with a deal worse than this one. It's an unknown. Some are willing to accept that risk, and some are not. For most people this likely isn't their major factor for yes/no, but if they are middle of the road on the deal, it's likely the thing that pushes them to yes. Make sense?
If we end up negotiating in a downturn, we could end up with a deal worse than this one. It's an unknown. Some are willing to accept that risk, and some are not. For most people this likely isn't their major factor for yes/no, but if they are middle of the road on the deal, it's likely the thing that pushes them to yes. Make sense?
There are some glaringly dangerous things in this contract. Why don't you read the sections that outsource to already controversial BJ policies. This contract puts into legal language the Dependability Policy which still doesn't draw lines... it basically says you are always guilty. Read the part about company directed medical evaluations and the lack of protection for medical records. It is grossly negligently written and doesn't even mention HIPAA-style protections. What if BJ misplaces records or accidentally hits REPLY ALL? What if their company payroll doctor is getting secret kickbacks to give scrutiny to pilots with medical issues, such as several guys here who have cancer? You wouldn't stand a chance ever proving anything in court because the contract doesn't give you any real protections or ability to scrutinize the process. BJ has no business keeping ANY medical records beyond "qualified" or "disqualified". You know all these things have happened before in virtually every industry. This contract opens the door for abuse and errors without our ability to truly fight back and defend our certificate.
The Railway Labor Act Simplified
This communique is for entertainment purposes only. It does not implicitly or explicitly acknowledge employment with any air carrier nor is any relationship implied. This communique does not represent the opinions or policies of ALPA or JB ALPA and does not represent the collective pilot group, ALPA, nor does it imply collective bargaining, advocacy, or workforce actions intended to disrupt operations.
07-03-2018 | 02:07 PM
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It works out better to talk through you while pointing out that you have to ignore people you can't control.
The Railway Labor Act Simplified
This communique is for entertainment purposes only. It does not implicitly or explicitly acknowledge employment with any air carrier nor is any relationship implied. This communique does not represent the opinions or policies of ALPA or JB ALPA and does not represent the collective pilot group, ALPA, nor does it imply collective bargaining, advocacy, or workforce actions intended to disrupt operations.
07-03-2018 | 02:37 PM
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It works out better to talk through you while pointing out that you have to ignore people you can't control.
The Railway Labor Act Simplified
This communique is for entertainment purposes only. It does not implicitly or explicitly acknowledge employment with any air carrier nor is any relationship implied. This communique does not represent the opinions or policies of ALPA or JB ALPA and does not represent the collective pilot group, ALPA, nor does it imply collective bargaining, advocacy, or workforce actions intended to disrupt operations.
The Railway Labor Act Simplified
This communique is for entertainment purposes only. It does not implicitly or explicitly acknowledge employment with any air carrier nor is any relationship implied. This communique does not represent the opinions or policies of ALPA or JB ALPA and does not represent the collective pilot group, ALPA, nor does it imply collective bargaining, advocacy, or workforce actions intended to disrupt operations.
07-03-2018 | 09:11 PM
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Wait a second...stop the music! Queue is Barney? So what you are saying is that he has multiple personality disorder? I guess I was right about his mental well-being. That’s why he is so damn scared of the jb doc
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