JetBlue Selects Airbus A220-300
07-14-2018, 02:59 AM
#171
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
Yes it was i was there.
One show of force. A battle won. I refused for years that “this is the dumbest pilot group ever” or “biggest group of pùssies” or juicers or whatever.
But dude we lost the every day battle. We lost the RSA VDA no extensions just your job battle. The SOP safety first battle.
I’m sorry but I have a hard... hard time listening to some of these guys who bítch that this wasn’t good enough. Or their potentially taking a pay cut when I’ve been falling on my sword for years. Years. Honestly i don’t care about “your problems” we’ve all got problems. We ALL need the money. I’ve left tens of thousands on the table not picking up trips. Not answering the phone and doing the hard things like missing commutes ect....
We’re here with guys that will vote no. send this back and the next minute will pick up a trip from the first call from CS. God look at the JFK sec tres! He couldn’t even be bothered to go to the road show! BQN dh JFK turn in there. See ya gots to go!
NOPE. I’m personally done. I’m taking the QOL improvements. Voting yes.
Where I’m at now it’s cost neutral but huge QOL improvements. I’m gonna gonto the bus. Then it’ll be huge QOL and more money. My seniority affords me that.
After two organizing committees, and P2P over the last 3 years I’m done. I praise the guys who do more. I can’t. I’ll pick up the tab for the reps the NC the MEC any time.
Everyone has to vote. Yes or no do whatcha gotta do.
One show of force. A battle won. I refused for years that “this is the dumbest pilot group ever” or “biggest group of pùssies” or juicers or whatever.
But dude we lost the every day battle. We lost the RSA VDA no extensions just your job battle. The SOP safety first battle.
I’m sorry but I have a hard... hard time listening to some of these guys who bítch that this wasn’t good enough. Or their potentially taking a pay cut when I’ve been falling on my sword for years. Years. Honestly i don’t care about “your problems” we’ve all got problems. We ALL need the money. I’ve left tens of thousands on the table not picking up trips. Not answering the phone and doing the hard things like missing commutes ect....
We’re here with guys that will vote no. send this back and the next minute will pick up a trip from the first call from CS. God look at the JFK sec tres! He couldn’t even be bothered to go to the road show! BQN dh JFK turn in there. See ya gots to go!
NOPE. I’m personally done. I’m taking the QOL improvements. Voting yes.
Where I’m at now it’s cost neutral but huge QOL improvements. I’m gonna gonto the bus. Then it’ll be huge QOL and more money. My seniority affords me that.
After two organizing committees, and P2P over the last 3 years I’m done. I praise the guys who do more. I can’t. I’ll pick up the tab for the reps the NC the MEC any time.
Everyone has to vote. Yes or no do whatcha gotta do.
Good write up...and thank you for volunteering.
07-14-2018, 05:24 AM
#173
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
Looks like Robin got a
GREAT deal on the A220s:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-moody-s-says
GREAT deal on the A220s:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-moody-s-says
That’s because it was part of a larger order is my guess... more to come at the air show.
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07-14-2018, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
Meaning?
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Disclaimer: my source is no one. I agree with BD that an LR order will be announced. I think They just did the 220-300 (convertible to -100s) order for the vote
07-14-2018, 07:12 AM
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Yep 321LR’s is my guess.
350’s are the size of 777’s. We don’t need and probably can’t support that many seats in an already overcrowded market.
The 787 is hurting the 330NEO program though. Maybe a very long outside shot if that.
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350’s are the size of 777’s. We don’t need and probably can’t support that many seats in an already overcrowded market.
The 787 is hurting the 330NEO program though. Maybe a very long outside shot if that.
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07-14-2018, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
Yep 321LR’s is my guess.
350’s are the size of 777’s. We don’t need and probably can’t support that many seats in an already overcrowded market.
The 787 is hurting the 330NEO program though. Maybe a very long outside shot if that.
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350’s are the size of 777’s. We don’t need and probably can’t support that many seats in an already overcrowded market.
The 787 is hurting the 330NEO program though. Maybe a very long outside shot if that.
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The 321LR makes too much sense....it's too easy not to try with it. The company will do great with it and you'll have 5 guys here saying it's an absolute failure because on a blizzard day the plane will divert to Portland ME or Halifax NS. See!!! It's a failure!! Told you guys!
07-14-2018, 11:19 AM
#179
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Originally Posted by Softpayman
The 330NEO program is on life support. Don't know if we'd go stick our necks out for it.
The 321LR makes too much sense....it's too easy not to try with it. The company will do great with it and you'll have 5 guys here saying it's an absolute failure because on a blizzard day the plane will divert to Portland ME or Halifax NS. See!!! It's a failure!! Told you guys!
The 321LR makes too much sense....it's too easy not to try with it. The company will do great with it and you'll have 5 guys here saying it's an absolute failure because on a blizzard day the plane will divert to Portland ME or Halifax NS. See!!! It's a failure!! Told you guys!
07-14-2018, 01:25 PM
#180
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
A350 20 of them. Just what my source says....
Disclaimer: my source is no one. I agree with BD that an LR order will be announced. I think They just did the 220-300 (convertible to -100s) order for the vote
Disclaimer: my source is no one. I agree with BD that an LR order will be announced. I think They just did the 220-300 (convertible to -100s) order for the vote
You are correct that all 60 FIRM orders can be converted to the -100. I personally believe they won't do that. The entire industry is in an upgauging trend, and the company will want to move more passengers per pilot/gate/slot/landing fee/etc...
The cost to aquire and operate a -100 is only negligibly less than a -300, but the number of fewer seats you can sell during the high-travel months is considerable.
Also, I do not believe it is a coincidence that they will announce the A220 and the LR both during the vote....
And NO chance for twin isle aircraft. Too much risk for this management group. Plus the LR is a good aircraft for what we want to do initially.
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