It requires positive contact. This is definitely an issue, but you would most likely already be sitting reserve. Unless you make a habit of answering calls for CS on your days off.

 

Yes, agreed, in the TA if you don’t answer when they first call, YOU have to call back and the clock starts from when THEY initially called you (I was talking about how things are right now….sorry if confusing).

What other guys are worried about (as I understand) is that the company won’t call your phone at all but instead use Jetcrew as the sole means to notify. So the situation, as others have written, is you’re sitting short call and happen to be sleeping or working out or whatever (playing with yourself) and you get an assignment. Instead of calling, CS sends the assignment via Jetcrew only and that will start the clock and it’s incumbent on you to either acknowledge it (by Jetcrew or by calling them back). You miss the Jetcrew ping and then you get in trouble. I’m saying this isn’t going to happen and that they will still call your phone.

 

I think it's more dangerously vague language to keep you on the hook as long as possible without reprocussions to them. Mark my words, they WILL exploit it to make changes. There is no language preventing them from going right up to the required rest minimum. I think it's really that simple. I know on normal pairings they've given us 10 hrs min rest, of course 30 mins of that is eaten up going to the hotel, then 30 mins the other way. Even knowing at 10 hrs we would be 1.5 hrs late to report the next day, they just delayed the flight 1.5 hrs but still crewed it with us. This was not an IROP. So, CS will do whatever the text says to the letter. They rely on you to call out fatigued but will not hesitate to put you into a fatiguing situation.


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Lol, ok…cute. I’m glad you accepted my bet for a case though. If this thing passes we’ll see how it goes….I’ll be bidding reserve this fall and I’m confident we’ll still get phone calls. Just feel lucky that I’m a cheap date….a Coors Lite kind of girl.

 

I'm with you now.

Oh, and how do you know that's what I do on rsv? Are you in that black helicopter?

July 27th ...and then until Dec 31, 2019

 

Jetblue is a dump. Vote NO like our real peers at delta did. Time to put on your big boy paints and do some big boy stuff here. For once.

 

For what? An extra 50 mill signing bonus in 9-12 months?
ptosb is gone forever and B6 has shown that they dont need us to give a crap about performance by their profit sharing model.

SOP until retirement here at jetblew, but take the immediate protections and retirement offered in this TA.
Voting no is a bad gamble.
Flame away ladies...

 

I wish the seniors at Delta would educate the Freshmen at BJ on how to fight substandard contracts. We are dragging down the industry and the profession. We largely have a blind (ALPA) leading the blind situation.

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Voting yes is a certain disaster. Read the TA. It is a known quantity.... we KNOW BJ will exploit every single legal loophole from past accomplished fact and from their recent words. Just look at the brainwashing they made in their recent email about cleaning. Notice how they cited their lawyers' advice... F&H are their council in charge.

F&H's role is to contain the union through legal means, specifically through bad, vague, weak contracts like TA 1.


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But the crew has to acknowledge it (two way comms established, is it not so?