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FLIGHT-TIME/DUTY-TIME: NEW FAA PART 117 INTERPRETATIONS
The first of the two latest FAA interpretations of FAR Part 117 flight-time/duty-time regulations was released on July 3, 2018, and clarified the Part 117 definitions of "duty" and "flight duty period" in the context of an air carrier requiring flightcrew members to perform aircraft cleaning duties at the conclusion of two flight segments while commuting to a flight assignment. The question presented was whether the FDP began at the time of the first cleaning duty or when the flightcrew member reported for the assigned FDP. The FAA has consistently stated that duty means all actual work for an air carrier, including preflight and post-flight activities. The report time is not necessarily the assigned start time of the FDP if prior to the report time the flightcrew member was engaged in ground duties for the air carrier. All activities performed for the air carrier must be included in the flight duty period to mitigate any fatigue that might affect the flight assignment.

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hilltopflyer

Hopefully B6 Alpa will finally put up a fight to what giggity wants us to do.

BeatNavy

Glad the FAA has our backs. I would have hoped the people to whom I pay 1.9% of my income would be the ones to fight this. What’d they say...bigger fish to fry or something like that? I guess as busy as the FAA is, they probably have bigger fish to fry too. Oh well. At least we have an industry leading....wait. Nevermind.

Blue Dude

Btw, did you see the name of the original requestor for the legal interpretation? "John Q. de Lancie"? John de Lancie, the actor who played Q on Star Trek?

All right, queue, fess up.

BeatNavy

Effing brilliant. I’m not a Trekkie, so I didn’t pick up on that. I did however look up to see if we had a pilot by that name, because I figured it was a jetblue pilot who asked. It’s obviously a smart JetBlue pilot who didn’t want any giggity repercussions.

PasserOGas

YES!

Oh man, Q is my favorite manic depressive today.

Blue Dude

The guy should never buy his own beer ever again. He just put a very legal stake in the heart of that stupid policy. All any pilot has to do is call crew services for any non rev activity, not just commuting, and put in for, say, 15 minutes on duty. It interrupts rest, it resets the 30 hr off period, all kinds of mischief. I want the Hitler video of this.

Gearswinger

Who the hell is ever cleaning? Did I accidentally click over to Airlineflightattendantforums.com?

Softpayman

But the FA's might give you nasty looks!! They might not be your bestie!!

Softpayman

PEA you were gonna say. We have a PEA now.

That's all we have. No scope, next to lowest payrates, unusable vacation system, industry worst reserve system, scheduling system that doesn't credit our time away (10 hour 3 days).

We also have a TA that addresses those things and makes broad market rate improvements.