Initial A220 bid
#13
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Correct. From what I’ve heard about our fleet plan, we’ll lose about 5 E190s by Summer 2021, while gaining the same amount of A220s. Also a reduction of some of the old A320’s. I think A220 interest will be mixed.
#14
I can’t see a ton of bus guys going 220 right away. Pay cut, plus more regional style flying. Tough call as well, bidding new equipment while everything is closed down at ocs. It would make for a long boring 4-6 wks of training.
#16
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It'll be a mix, but I'm thinking will go mostly junior. You'll have some that will bid it, just because it is a new airplane, but still too many unknowns, in terms of flying and schedules. If we wouldn't have given up the IOE trips withholding, it would have been tempting to some to bid it if they are going to be senior and bid CKA trips and get a lot of trips bought off down the road.
#17
It’s going to be another disaster. There will be possibly 70 displacements off the 190 as a result of going one for one. Of those 70, as the last bid has shown, likely half will voluntarily just bid what they want (Boston 320 etc.) It will be a huge trickle down and we will see another likely 10+ Boston 320 left seaters displaced with each bid that reduces 190 positions. This doesn’t even factor those who got displaced out of their seat and/or Boston last bid. Guessing a simple reduction of just a few planes will cost another large training event. Far more so than just the junior X amount of 190 pilots displaced. Willing to bet they are safe where they are as senior folks will use the opportunity to voluntary into a place they want without a vacancy.
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I'd say that most of the interest revolves around the QOL that the plane may or may not hold. We have no idea what the schedules will be yet. The rest will be the ooooh boy a new toy interest.
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#20
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It’s going to be another disaster. There will be possibly 70 displacements off the 190 as a result of going one for one. Of those 70, as the last bid has shown, likely half will voluntarily just bid what they want (Boston 320 etc.) It will be a huge trickle down and we will see another likely 10+ Boston 320 left seaters displaced with each bid that reduces 190 positions. This doesn’t even factor those who got displaced out of their seat and/or Boston last bid. Guessing a simple reduction of just a few planes will cost another large training event. Far more so than just the junior X amount of 190 pilots displaced. Willing to bet they are safe where they are as senior folks will use the opportunity to voluntary into a place they want without a vacancy.
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