Initial A220 bid
10-05-2020, 04:04 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by Wounded Duck
Respectfully, I disagree. Displacements are expensive for the company. They will reduce the number of 190 positions without a displacement. Some 190 guys will bid the 220 and some will take 320/321 vacancies opened up by those pilots bidding the 220. They will just carry a few more 190 pilots then they want rather then displacing. Why pay for displacements when guys will leave for free? In a couple years they will start making the trips unbearable to entice the stalwarts to bid off before they finally rip the Band-Aid off with a final displacement and liquidate the fleet.
10-06-2020, 02:30 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by Ted Striker
Tough call as well, bidding new equipment while everything is closed down at ocs. It would make for a long boring 4-6 wks of training.
Even at the Lodge the bar, fitness center, and cafeteria (most options) all were open.
It’s business as usual down there with the exception of temperature screenings and masks.
10-06-2020, 01:36 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by SmitteyB
I was there last week. Everything is open. Restaurants, bars, theme parks.
Even at the Lodge the bar, fitness center, and cafeteria (most options) all were open.
It’s business as usual down there with the exception of temperature screenings and masks.
Even at the Lodge the bar, fitness center, and cafeteria (most options) all were open.
It’s business as usual down there with the exception of temperature screenings and masks.
10-06-2020, 02:06 PM
#24
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Originally Posted by Ted Striker
I can’t see a ton of bus guys going 220 right away. Pay cut, plus more regional style flying. Tough call as well, bidding new equipment while everything is closed down at ocs. It would make for a long boring 4-6 wks of training.
Personally for me, the inability to quickly fly back home during the 2-4 days off they give you during the long 6 week QT footprint is the issue I have. Two flights/day to BOS makes things tough. I was down in MCO for QT training during the beginning of the pandemic. Not something I’d like to do again voluntarily.
10-06-2020, 03:30 PM
#25
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Originally Posted by SmitteyB
I was there last week. Everything is open. Restaurants, bars, theme parks.
Even at the Lodge the bar, fitness center, and cafeteria (most options) all were open.
It’s business as usual down there with the exception of temperature screenings and masks.
Even at the Lodge the bar, fitness center, and cafeteria (most options) all were open.
It’s business as usual down there with the exception of temperature screenings and masks.
10-07-2020, 04:31 PM
#26
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Originally Posted by nuball5
Personally for me, the inability to quickly fly back home during the 2-4 days off they give you during the long 6 week QT footprint is the issue I have. Two flights/day to BOS makes things tough. I was down in MCO for QT training during the beginning of the pandemic. Not something I’d like to do again voluntarily.
10-07-2020, 07:56 PM
#27
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Originally Posted by TristarJS30
I have recurrent next month and was looking at flights. We have 3 a day between JFK and MCO. Zero to LGA. The JFK ones are either early morning, noon, or 2pm. Coming back the first flight is at 12:30, then around 2 and 7. Not exactly the most convenient.
10-08-2020, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by disenchantMINT
Not even a miniscule fraction of the inconvenience commuters have been dealing with for 6+ months. You'll survive.
10-08-2020, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by disenchantMINT
Not even a miniscule fraction of the inconvenience commuters have been dealing with for 6+ months. You'll survive.
I agree with the complaints about the training schedule and commuting to and from home. We have no say in our training schedule. One of the only restrictions is there must be a two day off period within a 14 day footprint. That makes it very difficult to get to and from home on days (or day in many cases) off. If you have a family, and especially if you have a wife that works and kids, it’s very hard to just be absent for the majority of a month. As a normal commuter yes your commute has gotten very difficult but you’re not flying much at all and you’re also given the option to take a VIL. To make matters worse many of these guys headed to training in the next few months are going there involuntarily.
So to be honest I feel a lot worse for them than I do you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
EDIT: I see you quoted Tristar and not Nuball’s post. Yeah getting to and from recurrent isn’t going to get much sympathy from me either.
10-08-2020, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by apes10
Totally agree with your point here. The commuting has gone from bearable to a complete disaster for a lot of us. I know I know it’s our choice but ... for someone to complain about a commute to/from training well you’ll live through it.
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