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Old 11-08-2022 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
It wasn’t the last contract, it was LOA 17.

Company: “We need to rewrite this scope section because otherwise the NEA would be in violation. We’ll give you 2% plus furlough relief.”
MEC: “Hey guys, vote for this scope relief. Because 2%! If we vote no, the company can’t do the full NEA and we get nothing. Plus furloughs!”
Pilots: “We’re allllllllmost convinced… but no. Not just no, but HELL NO. And 49% yes.”
MEC: “That’s right! We’re worth way more than 2%! Hell no!”
Company: “Sorry you feel that way. I guess we’re going to violate your scope. You give us no option.”
MEC: “Wait… you can do that? Grievances!”
Arbitrator: “So, what do we have here?”
MEC: “They said they needed us to change scope because the NEA violates it. We voted no, and they did it anyway.”
Arbitrator: “Is this true?”
Company:
MEC: “We even have fourteen memos, nine bulletins, three Q&A sessions, and five pocket sessions where the company says that exact thing.”
Company: “Those were never official company announcements. Besides, we’d like to activate our “We can break the contract as long as it makes more money” clause.”
Arbitrator: “There’s no such clause.”
Company:
Arbitrator: “I’m required by law to make my ruling within 30 days. So you guys take up to a year… and talk this through.”
Company: “2% is our first and final offer.”
MEC: “The pilots of JetBlue have spoken. It’s going to take a lot more than 2% for us to let this violation stand. Plus we see how much money Jetblue is making with the NEA - and the pilots deserve a bigger chunk of that. 2% is a pittance.”
Company:
MEC: “Not good enough.”
Company:
MEC: “It’s a clear violation. You are not even in the ballpark.”
Company:
Arbitrator: “Are you ready for my decision?”
Company: “3%”
MEC: “3%? We’ll take it! Home run baby!”
Pilot group: “3%? We’ll take it!”
Company: “Interesting. Well, on that note, let’s talk Section 6 openers…”
This should be mandatory new hire assigned reading
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Old 11-17-2022 | 05:35 AM
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Thought we would have gotten an update by now. No news is good news?
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Old 11-17-2022 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by KingAirpilot90
Thought we would have gotten an update by now. No news is good news?
No, in the past GOOD news is good news. Anything else has almost always been bad news. Will this time be different?
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Old 11-17-2022 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by KingAirpilot90
Thought we would have gotten an update by now. No news is good news?
Nah, probably part of the Friday update. No news is probably bad news actually if ALPA doesn’t say something by tonight, which is my expectation.
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Old 11-17-2022 | 06:00 AM
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25% pay rate increase, if not I send it back.
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Old 11-17-2022 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by CafeConLeche
25% pay rate increase, if not I send it back.
But anything less is going to be industry leading and mgmt pinky promises to come back to the table in a JCBA
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Old 11-17-2022 | 06:08 AM
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What’s the schedules of dates again, for the meetings?
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Old 11-17-2022 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by CafeConLeche
25% pay rate increase, if not I send it back.
$353 is a good start....if it is less...pay parody/snap-up would be a good add as well.
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Old 11-17-2022 | 06:22 AM
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If the company was in a hurry to give us a 25% raise, they wouldn’t have waited 2 weeks for a counter proposal. I wouldn’t expect they made much progress.
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Old 11-17-2022 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetlag3
$353 is a good start....if it is less...pay parody/snap-up would be a good add as well.
I think you mean pay-parity. Pay parody is something like NK first year pay.
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