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Old 12-15-2022, 03:52 AM
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I am holding my tongue till we get details. If it isn’t amazing we gave up the most leverage we will have in a long time for subpar numbers.
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Old 12-15-2022, 04:07 AM
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I am holding my tongue till we get details. If it isn’t amazing we gave up the most leverage we will have in a long time for subpar numbers.
We’ll have our greatest leverage negotiating our JCBA but we definitely have significant capital right now. Let’s hope we used it well.
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Old 12-15-2022, 04:08 AM
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I am holding my tongue till we get details. If it isn’t amazing we gave up the most leverage we will have in a long time for subpar numbers.

the MEC will send it back if it’s not industry leading.
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Old 12-15-2022, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Softpayman View Post
Keep dreaming.
Keep dreaming? Of what, lowpayman, pay and work rules that keep the training center humming along at full bore to meet the staffing demands of the operation? Have you been down there in the last year or two?
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Old 12-15-2022, 04:13 AM
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the MEC will send it back if it’s not industry leading.
it’ll be the best thing he has done as the mec. If not recall time
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Old 12-15-2022, 04:20 AM
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it’ll be the best thing he has done as the mec. If not recall time
Which one of the ~20 members of the MEC is "he"?
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Old 12-15-2022, 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by BackseatPilot View Post
From an instructor perspective, there had better be a clause paying what we can hold, irrelevant of jetblue or 121 time. We have too many instructors that are on FO rates because they are only allowed to fly two days a month.

Also, given that nothing else is being negotiated to allow for better and more comparable work rules, pay had better be significantly higher than any of the majors.
Yeah, ok….instructors have it bad….

I remember back when I was based in MCO with 8 years in pulling gear for instructors in the left seat with 4 or 5 years getting 90 hrs of left seat pay and they’re b!tching about something.

Basically based on MCO with a “paper bid” of BOS captain, flying senior day trips they get to pick and choose that they wouldn’t have a chance holding even as a line FO, and getting paid captain pay while sitting next to FOs well senior to them who don’t have a prayer in holding any of that

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Old 12-15-2022, 04:25 AM
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the MEC will send it back if it’s not industry leading.

With CK sitting in the room breathing down the necks of the NC the last several sessions I’d be surprised if it gets sent back.
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Old 12-15-2022, 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by avi8orco View Post
Yeah, ok….instructors have it bad….

I remember back when I was based in MCO with 8 years in pulling gear for instructors in the left seat with 4 or 5 years getting 90 hrs of left seat pay and they’re b!tching about something.

Basically based on MCO with a “paper bid” of BOS captain, flying senior day trips they get to pick and choose that they wouldn’t have a chance holding even as a line FO, and getting paid captain pay while sitting next to FOs well senior to them who don’t have a prayer in holding any of that

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Every instructor I meet tells me how amazing they have it... Usually several times.
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Old 12-15-2022, 04:27 AM
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Every instructor I meet tells me how amazing they have it... Usually several times.
The juicers? That's to be expected. The last couple times I've been down there the discontent was palpable among the seniority list, ALPA lanyard wearing instructors.
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