TA passed. Onward to JBCA
01-31-2023 | 08:44 AM
#51
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Lots of wind at your back.
By the time the JCBA negotiations begin the United and American pilots will have new contracts.
They may differ from Delta’s, but the pay rates will be equal or better.
Spirit has many breathtaking items in their contract. Study them and never let them go.
Hopefully the United and AA pilots match Delta’s profit sharing. That will make your case much easier.
By the time the JCBA negotiations begin the United and American pilots will have new contracts.
They may differ from Delta’s, but the pay rates will be equal or better.
Spirit has many breathtaking items in their contract. Study them and never let them go.
Hopefully the United and AA pilots match Delta’s profit sharing. That will make your case much easier.
01-31-2023 | 09:16 AM
#52
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You guys are too kind 🍻 but I can't give up my Armchair Board of Directors membership. 😂
I agree, I would only be in favor of the idea if you were docked 4:12/day of the sick-as-needed occurence.
I agree, I would only be in favor of the idea if you were docked 4:12/day of the sick-as-needed occurence.
01-31-2023 | 03:30 PM
#53
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From: Airbus Capt
The scenario is you have a 5-day block of reserve, and on day one you don't feel well (and believe it will last several days). Under the current contract you have to call in sick, even though they may not call you all week. Or, you could roll the dice, and call in sick if you get an assignment, but I believe that triggers a dependability review...
So "sick if needed" let's you keep your PTO *UNLESS* they actually need to assign you something.
01-31-2023 | 04:00 PM
#54
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Not disagreeing about the 3 days of sick time problem, but you are missing an important detail about the scenario.
The scenario is you have a 5-day block of reserve, and on day one you don't feel well (and believe it will last several days). Under the current contract you have to call in sick, even though they may not call you all week. Or, you could roll the dice, and call in sick if you get an assignment, but I believe that triggers a dependability review...
So "sick if needed" let's you keep your PTO *UNLESS* they actually need to assign you something.
The scenario is you have a 5-day block of reserve, and on day one you don't feel well (and believe it will last several days). Under the current contract you have to call in sick, even though they may not call you all week. Or, you could roll the dice, and call in sick if you get an assignment, but I believe that triggers a dependability review...
So "sick if needed" let's you keep your PTO *UNLESS* they actually need to assign you something.
01-31-2023 | 04:42 PM
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The scenario is you have a 5-day block of reserve, and on day one you don't feel well (and believe it will last several days). Under the current contract you have to call in sick, even though they may not call you all week. Or, you could roll the dice, and call in sick if you get an assignment, but I believe that triggers a dependability review...
So "sick if needed" let's you keep your PTO *UNLESS* they actually need to assign you something.
So "sick if needed" let's you keep your PTO *UNLESS* they actually need to assign you something.
On point, we need to find little nuggets like these in other contracts that make QOL good…. This was just one example.
01-31-2023 | 05:08 PM
#56
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Not disagreeing about the 3 days of sick time problem, but you are missing an important detail about the scenario.
The scenario is you have a 5-day block of reserve, and on day one you don't feel well (and believe it will last several days). Under the current contract you have to call in sick, even though they may not call you all week. Or, you could roll the dice, and call in sick if you get an assignment, but I believe that triggers a dependability review...
So "sick if needed" let's you keep your PTO *UNLESS* they actually need to assign you something.
The scenario is you have a 5-day block of reserve, and on day one you don't feel well (and believe it will last several days). Under the current contract you have to call in sick, even though they may not call you all week. Or, you could roll the dice, and call in sick if you get an assignment, but I believe that triggers a dependability review...
So "sick if needed" let's you keep your PTO *UNLESS* they actually need to assign you something.
01-31-2023 | 11:39 PM
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One thing that I will also add. Currently if we call out sick after an assignment, they deduct the amount of PTO based on the amount of credit that trip was worth, so not just 1 day of reserve. Unless they are doing it wrong, someone can point me to where the CBA prohibits this.
So in that example, with B6 current contract, you’d be off from day 3 to 5 but will lose PTO for that 3 day trip credit. Again, correct me if they are not suppose to be doing that.
So in that example, with B6 current contract, you’d be off from day 3 to 5 but will lose PTO for that 3 day trip credit. Again, correct me if they are not suppose to be doing that.
02-01-2023 | 09:03 AM
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One thing that I will also add. Currently if we call out sick after an assignment, they deduct the amount of PTO based on the amount of credit that trip was worth, so not just 1 day of reserve. Unless they are doing it wrong, someone can point me to where the CBA prohibits this.
So in that example, with B6 current contract, you’d be off from day 3 to 5 but will lose PTO for that 3 day trip credit. Again, correct me if they are not suppose to be doing that.
So in that example, with B6 current contract, you’d be off from day 3 to 5 but will lose PTO for that 3 day trip credit. Again, correct me if they are not suppose to be doing that.
02-01-2023 | 11:41 AM
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