Pairing survey
05-19-2023, 09:01 PM
#21
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Posts: 732
Originally Posted by dontsurf
I told them this when they were first negotiating the contract. they said, "well we have to do it one way or the other so we chose this way". I said they should have chosen the other way, and they should have us vote on it, but they didn't care.
Lineholders can trade trips out of base without restriction.
05-20-2023, 03:21 AM
#22
SDQ Base Chief
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,588
Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
At spirit you bid for and are awarded the same RAP for the entire month on your working days. Most junior pilot on your RAP with the same corresponding days available gets called when a trip comes up.
Lineholders can trade trips out of base without restriction.
Lineholders can trade trips out of base without restriction.
05-20-2023, 05:19 AM
#23
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2019
Position: A320 First Officer
Posts: 88
Originally Posted by Flyby1206
how do lineholders trade trips between bases? Aren’t there separate reserve grids for each base?
05-20-2023, 06:50 AM
#24
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Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 983
Originally Posted by flippedr6
If I’m FLL based get awarded a crappy jr line. I can drop it all as long as the Fll grid is green. Then I can pick up from open time at any base. So if DTW has a three day that’s commutable, I’ll grab that then find other trips anywhere to fill my month back up.
05-20-2023, 08:39 AM
#25
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Originally Posted by Roy Biggins
We can’t pick up open time outside of our base, which sucks. Unless it’s “global open time” and then never, ever happens. Crew Services just never utilizes it. But again, our reserve grid and open time system needs an overhaul.
05-20-2023, 01:24 PM
#26
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Posts: 770
Originally Posted by Flyby1206
how do lineholders trade trips between bases? Aren’t there separate reserve grids for each base?
05-20-2023, 05:27 PM
#27
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Position: Student of the game
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Originally Posted by Roy Biggins
our reserve grid and open time system needs an overhaul.
05-20-2023, 07:29 PM
#28
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Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 704
Ok guys, now next time when the negotiating committee tries to sell you on “industry leading” pairing construction and reserve section, can we please start to view such claims with a healthy dose of skepticism lest we have to repeat this mistake again in some form or fashion? For those of you who weren’t here for TA1 that’s exactly what was sold to the group.
05-21-2023, 04:44 AM
#29
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Originally Posted by Roy Biggins
We can’t pick up open time outside of our base, which sucks. Unless it’s “global open time” and then never, ever happens. Crew Services just never utilizes it. But again, our reserve grid and open time system needs an overhaul.
05-21-2023, 06:34 AM
#30
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Posts: 983
Originally Posted by disenchantMINT
Out of base OT being restricted does NOT suck. There are myriad reasons why it's not allowed, primary of which is to prevent seniority abrogation. This should not be allowed much less entertained during JCBA talks.
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