Schedule drops
11-30-2023 | 05:30 PM
#121
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B6 guy here and I was talking to a Spirit Captain. He wants DTZ, the grid system, and the X/Y stuff... and he is willing to take JetBlue-10% pay to keep them.
He asked me if the JetBlue guys would vote for a 10% pay cut in the JCBA in order to get DTZ. Guess what my answer was.
He asked me if the JetBlue guys would vote for a 10% pay cut in the JCBA in order to get DTZ. Guess what my answer was.
11-30-2023 | 05:44 PM
#122
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B6 guy here and I was talking to a Spirit Captain. He wants DTZ, the grid system, and the X/Y stuff... and he is willing to take JetBlue-10% pay to keep them.
He asked me if the JetBlue guys would vote for a 10% pay cut in the JCBA in order to get DTZ. Guess what my answer was.
He asked me if the JetBlue guys would vote for a 10% pay cut in the JCBA in order to get DTZ. Guess what my answer was.
11-30-2023 | 05:45 PM
#123
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From: Switch it up
B6 guy here and I was talking to a Spirit Captain. He wants DTZ, the grid system, and the X/Y stuff... and he is willing to take JetBlue-10% pay to keep them.
He asked me if the JetBlue guys would vote for a 10% pay cut in the JCBA in order to get DTZ. Guess what my answer was.
He asked me if the JetBlue guys would vote for a 10% pay cut in the JCBA in order to get DTZ. Guess what my answer was.
11-30-2023 | 05:52 PM
#124
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B6 guy here and I was talking to a Spirit Captain. He wants DTZ, the grid system, and the X/Y stuff... and he is willing to take JetBlue-10% pay to keep them.
He asked me if the JetBlue guys would vote for a 10% pay cut in the JCBA in order to get DTZ. Guess what my answer was.
He asked me if the JetBlue guys would vote for a 10% pay cut in the JCBA in order to get DTZ. Guess what my answer was.
11-30-2023 | 06:08 PM
#125
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From: 60’s Tech, Right
B6 guy here and I was talking to a Spirit Captain. He wants DTZ, the grid system, and the X/Y stuff... and he is willing to take JetBlue-10% pay to keep them.
He asked me if the JetBlue guys would vote for a 10% pay cut in the JCBA in order to get DTZ. Guess what my answer was.
He asked me if the JetBlue guys would vote for a 10% pay cut in the JCBA in order to get DTZ. Guess what my answer was.
Only an idiot would ASK for pay cuts or work rule concessions in these conditions....
Cursory notes, we at Spirit get:
-more guaranteed days off as a line holder
-better minimum monthly guarantee as a lineholder
-fewer involuntary LCR to SCR conversions per month
-better pay per SCR conversion (hours of pay [MENTION=79541]Longe[/MENTION]vs. a flat rate)
(All per the contract comparison guide.)
I could add subjective items that B6 guys may or may not like (out of base swaps & adds)...
Jetblue has lots of better stuff than we do! Guess what, we should combine them both and stop this nonsense over the value of one particular item. THEY ARE ALL VALUABLE! Stop openly negotiating away ****! As an added bonus, I'd like to see some of our pre-C2018 work rules restored (namely trip integrity).
11-30-2023 | 08:14 PM
#126
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From: Switch it up
So yes… I’d much rather work under Spirit’s contract because out of FLL I can…
a) make more than JB rates
b) control my schedule
12-01-2023 | 02:45 AM
#127
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From: Airbus Capt
Not a good faith comment b/c it’s a 5% difference based on current pay tables. Factor in the 8% intl override on the plethora of SA day turns out of FLL and we credit more.
So yes… I’d much rather work under Spirit’s contract because out of FLL I can…
a) make more than JB rates
b) control my schedule
So yes… I’d much rather work under Spirit’s contract because out of FLL I can…
a) make more than JB rates
b) control my schedule
12-01-2023 | 03:00 AM
#128
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From: Airbus Capt
Initial lazy research on APC suggests Delta, American and United can most likely DTZ, Southwest definitely cannot. Not sure about Alaska. I would call it, industry common.
I have always said if we could get DTZ, plus everything else we want, great.
I have always said if we could get DTZ, plus everything else we want, great.
Last edited by Bluedriver; 12-01-2023 at 03:18 AM.
12-01-2023 | 04:35 AM
#130
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Also NK pilots get a raise on January 1. For me it's $20 (5th year captain).
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