View Poll Results: Are you leaving JetBlue for another airline?
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01-31-2024 | 09:20 AM
#41
SDQ Base Chief
Joined: Mar 2006
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From: 320 CA
If all pilots made career altering decisions based on one failed merger and one invester call over a 40 yeaer career, we'd all be losing seniority on a quarterly basis. Sometimes you just have to buckle up and take the ride. In hindsight over a career, this won't even be a blip.
01-31-2024 | 09:39 AM
#42
I'm Blue
Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 129
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If all pilots made career altering decisions based on one failed merger and one invester call over a 40 yeaer career, we'd all be losing seniority on a quarterly basis. Sometimes you just have to buckle up and take the ride. In hindsight over a career, this won't even be a blip.
That's another awesome perspective. I think what makes it different now is how much the legacies are growing.
01-31-2024 | 09:49 AM
#43
SDQ Base Chief
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 6,089
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From: 320 CA
2010 DL/NW
2010 FL/WN
2010 UA/CO
2013 US/AA
^^^ happened and we (JB) were getting left in the dust. All to say, life will go on. I'm bummed about this failed merger just like I was about the VX attempt too. The sharp stick in the eye this time is getting shot down by our DOJ/court system when all of the above happened.
01-31-2024 | 12:01 PM
#44
On Reserve
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 111
Likes: 21
From: A320 captain
Some parallels to today, with a deal that will likely not happen, but instead of Spirit at 3X the price it's a very troubled Spirit perhaps not likely to be a significant competitor to JetBlue anymore.
01-31-2024 | 01:05 PM
#45
SDQ Base Chief
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 6,089
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From: 320 CA
That wasn't a failure. They shrewdly drove up the price and backed off leaving Alaska with a bunch of airplanes they didn't want at twice or thrice the cost.
Some parallels to today, with a deal that will likely not happen, but instead of Spirit at 3X the price it's a very troubled Spirit perhaps not likely to be a significant competitor to JetBlue anymore.
Some parallels to today, with a deal that will likely not happen, but instead of Spirit at 3X the price it's a very troubled Spirit perhaps not likely to be a significant competitor to JetBlue anymore.
Point being we were hoping to expand our presence and scale via a merger and it failed to happen for one reason or another. The thought at the time was “good luck JB, you’ll never compete in transcons now!”
In a similar vein, NK has a bunch of planes and staff that we needed to execute our growth strategy. Those are the assets we want, not some super lucrative hub or slot portfolios. Now how will we ever be able to grow without NK? I’m sure we’ll find a way.
01-31-2024 | 04:17 PM
#46
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Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 598
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Oh that’s right, we eBay’d Alaska 😂
Point being we were hoping to expand our presence and scale via a merger and it failed to happen for one reason or another. The thought at the time was “good luck JB, you’ll never compete in transcons now!”
In a similar vein, NK has a bunch of planes and staff that we needed to execute our growth strategy. Those are the assets we want, not some super lucrative hub or slot portfolios. Now how will we ever be able to grow without NK? I’m sure we’ll find a way.
Point being we were hoping to expand our presence and scale via a merger and it failed to happen for one reason or another. The thought at the time was “good luck JB, you’ll never compete in transcons now!”
In a similar vein, NK has a bunch of planes and staff that we needed to execute our growth strategy. Those are the assets we want, not some super lucrative hub or slot portfolios. Now how will we ever be able to grow without NK? I’m sure we’ll find a way.
02-01-2024 | 05:32 AM
#48
Line Holder
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 516
Likes: 86
If all pilots made career altering decisions based on one failed merger and one invester call over a 40 yeaer career, we'd all be losing seniority on a quarterly basis. Sometimes you just have to buckle up and take the ride. In hindsight over a career, this won't even be a blip.
02-01-2024 | 05:48 AM
#49
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,629
Likes: 15
From: blueJet
We spent most of those years "Shrinking to Profitability" and then Delta said "You're too small and we're just shutting you down." In my time at JetBlue I have never felt like I was back at Comair. But this is really starting to feel like Comair.
02-01-2024 | 05:55 AM
#50
Line Holder
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 427
Likes: 27
From: A320 CA
It's never just that one earnings call, or that one failed merger, but a collection of failures. Eventually, one more bad call is enough to break the camels back. I keep living by my old school aviation advice of "Get hired where you can, when you can, as soon as you can and keep your number", but maybe that advice is dated and the current era of airline hiring means you can jump ship and still land solidly on your feet.
I liken the industry to the market. If you take a micro look at the operation day to day, you'll lose your mind following the ups and downs. If you scroll out and look at how the company has evolved since 1999, it paints a different picture. I try to stay positive because 1) I'm not leaving, and 2) there's nothing any of us can do so why get all fired up. We'll get through this.
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