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Old 07-01-2025 | 10:50 PM
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Look at this week. Another meltdown. This is the definition of insanity. The solution is simple. Diversify. ATC & WX. We’re held hostage. LGB and trans con redeyes didn’t generate that much. But our entire model is based on heavy aircraft utilization. We’d get 20hrs a day out of an Airbus. It kills me to keep doing this over and over. I look at all the terminals and we’re so outdated. We offer service to so many places with one flight. Our chance to win a costumer. .Look at the open time for a holiday weekend. Every trip should be premium
Hard to look at open time when flica is always down when they need it most lol
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Old 07-02-2025 | 11:45 AM
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After this week, it’s the most relief I’ve felt in a long time. The company filing a grievance is comical. Heck Breeze looks fulfilling even now. I’m definitely out.
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Old 07-02-2025 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by N311JB
After this week, it’s the most relief I’ve felt in a long time. The company filing a grievance is comical. Heck Breeze looks fulfilling even now. I’m definitely out.
Wishing you the best of luck. Life is too short to be unhappy. How many years of seniority are you leaving behind?
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Old 07-02-2025 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by N311JB
I’m definitely out.
Alright, movement!
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Old 07-02-2025 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by N311JB
After this week, it’s the most relief I’ve felt in a long time. The company filing a grievance is comical. Heck Breeze looks fulfilling even now. I’m definitely out.

How can I help?
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Old 07-04-2025 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rononymous
Wishing you the best of luck. Life is too short to be unhappy. How many years of seniority are you leaving behind?
18 I know it’s hard to believe. I’m an FO still too. Quality of life has gone down as I’ve become more senior. When I saw a check airman leave with 18 years, I knew I wasn’t crazy. The insanity of these IROPs is nuts. I have 19 years to 65. I’m only half way there. I just can’t picture working for this place that long. I think we go bankrupt before we get bought. We’re just a tier above spirit. Too toxic to trust. Personally for me its never been about money.
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Old 07-05-2025 | 03:14 AM
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18 I know it’s hard to believe. I’m an FO still too. Quality of life has gone down as I’ve become more senior. When I saw a check airman leave with 18 years, I knew I wasn’t crazy. The insanity of these IROPs is nuts. I have 19 years to 65. I’m only half way there. I just can’t picture working for this place that long. I think we go bankrupt before we get bought. We’re just a tier above spirit. Too toxic to trust. Personally for me its never been about money.
I often think about what it would be like to work for a carrier where when you showed up for your pairing, you just flew your pairing, on time, more or less as scheduled, every time.

And when you flew it wasn't ALWAYS battling weather up and down the east coast.

Can you guys just imagine that?

I sometimes think that could be worth taking a pay cut. I don't think it's crazy at all, especially for a commuter.
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Old 07-05-2025 | 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by N311JB
18 I know it’s hard to believe. I’m an FO still too. Quality of life has gone down as I’ve become more senior. When I saw a check airman leave with 18 years, I knew I wasn’t crazy. The insanity of these IROPs is nuts. I have 19 years to 65. I’m only half way there. I just can’t picture working for this place that long. I think we go bankrupt before we get bought. We’re just a tier above spirit. Too toxic to trust. Personally for me its never been about money.
I don’t think it’s crazy that you’re ready to jump ship and I also don’t think it’s crazy that you were here for as long as you were.
Even if things improve here I doubt you’ll ever look back and wish you stayed.
Do you have an interview lined up? I know it’s getting harder to get on these days and you might still be looking at well over a year before you’re sitting in class. This might give you enough time to reassess either way.
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Old 07-05-2025 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by rononymous
Do you have an interview lined up? I know it’s getting harder to get on these days and you might still be looking at well over a year before you’re sitting in class. This might give you enough time to reassess either way.
This is true. They might also tell you no, and then what? Not saying don’t try, just saying don’t get too down if you can help it, or too excited to leave.

Way too many pilots seem to let their job define them. They let their carrier define them, and they get all bent out of shape if they don’t like what they see. Like “if I’m not at carrier X, I’ll be miserable,” or “because I’m at carrier Y, I’ve failed.” It’s an unrealistic outlook, and it’s super toxic, especially when you think about what a real 40+ hour 9-to-5 looks like, and what their careers are like.

Take the interview, man. If you get it, check back in in 2 years and tell us if it’s that big a difference. It wouldn’t be for me, but I’m not you, and only you can make you happy.

Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer
I sometimes think that could be worth taking a pay cut. I don't think it's crazy at all, especially for a commuter.
If only this company offered an option where you could still get paid, yet opt out of the nonsense and stay home for an entire month…

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Old 07-05-2025 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer
I often think about what it would be like to work for a carrier where when you showed up for your pairing, you just flew your pairing, on time, more or less as scheduled, every time.

And when you flew it wasn't ALWAYS battling weather up and down the east coast.

Can you guys just imagine that?

I sometimes think that could be worth taking a pay cut. I don't think it's crazy at all, especially for a commuter.
The thing is though, we aren't special when it comes to IROPs. Yes, ours may be worse because we only have a smaller fleet that is contained mostly within the East Coast/Caribbean, but plenty of other airlines have IROPS and modifications. To pretend they don't is silly. Heck, Southwest's operation basically came to a grinding halt a couple years ago. My buddy on a NB at a legacy complains all the time that his trips go to crap. Reroutes, modifications etc but they also get reroute pay and he gets quite a bit of money from those company errors.

The difference is the security. He's not waking up in the morning wondering if his company is going to exist in the next few years. That's the primary reason I would want to leave. The money? We're not THAT far off from the legacies, and an extra $20k-$30k/yr isn't going to be life changing at our income level. Knowing I work for a strong company with a secure future is the difference between us and them. When I was hired here, the company had a very promising future. Now it feels like any news we get is consistently negative which absolutely kills morale. DL/UA/AA are all too big to fail now IMO. We are not.
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