Go to Delta after 7 years?
07-06-2025 | 01:37 AM
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The thing is though, JetBlue is.
Sure IROPS happen everywhere, but the key is the recovery.
I worked 4.5 years at JB, now entering year 3 at legacy. IT IS NOT THE SAME.
Picture this: It’s like a very difficult Math test. A classroom full of kids is all making their attempt silently on their own with pencil, paper, and calculator. Once the student finishes the problem they hand it in and if it is correct they get to leave the classroom.
JetBlue is like the last student in the classroom, they’ve handed it in when the others did, but they got it wrong and they had to go back to their seat……..
Sure IROPS happen everywhere, but the key is the recovery.
I worked 4.5 years at JB, now entering year 3 at legacy. IT IS NOT THE SAME.
Picture this: It’s like a very difficult Math test. A classroom full of kids is all making their attempt silently on their own with pencil, paper, and calculator. Once the student finishes the problem they hand it in and if it is correct they get to leave the classroom.
JetBlue is like the last student in the classroom, they’ve handed it in when the others did, but they got it wrong and they had to go back to their seat……..
07-06-2025 | 04:45 AM
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The thing is though, JetBlue is.
Sure IROPS happen everywhere, but the key is the recovery.
I worked 4.5 years at JB, now entering year 3 at legacy. IT IS NOT THE SAME.
Picture this: It’s like a very difficult Math test. A classroom full of kids is all making their attempt silently on their own with pencil, paper, and calculator. Once the student finishes the problem they hand it in and if it is correct they get to leave the classroom.
JetBlue is like the last student in the classroom, they’ve handed it in when the others did, but they got it wrong and they had to go back to their seat……..
Sure IROPS happen everywhere, but the key is the recovery.
I worked 4.5 years at JB, now entering year 3 at legacy. IT IS NOT THE SAME.
Picture this: It’s like a very difficult Math test. A classroom full of kids is all making their attempt silently on their own with pencil, paper, and calculator. Once the student finishes the problem they hand it in and if it is correct they get to leave the classroom.
JetBlue is like the last student in the classroom, they’ve handed it in when the others did, but they got it wrong and they had to go back to their seat……..
We reset much faster now and haven’t had a major “meltdown” in a long time. I can think of 2 Delta meltdowns and the southwest meltdown that happened within that time.
07-06-2025 | 05:18 AM
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07-06-2025 | 05:51 AM
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3 years ago is quite a long time so your perspective is out of date. I don’t think JetBlue is the same at all since then when it comes to IROPS recovery.
We reset much faster now and haven’t had a major “meltdown” in a long time. I can think of 2 Delta meltdowns and the southwest meltdown that happened within that time.
We reset much faster now and haven’t had a major “meltdown” in a long time. I can think of 2 Delta meltdowns and the southwest meltdown that happened within that time.
However if you feel that the subsequent days after a meltdown now go smoother may that possibly be down to a lower volume of departures……..if so is that really a good sign?
07-06-2025 | 06:51 AM
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But I’m sure your analogy is still correct. The legacies get hit with the same IROP, but B6 self-inflicts so much damage that when the big 3 climb out of the hole, B6 is still in there digging.
The majority of the issues I see on the line are still self-inflicted or at least made worse by ineptitude. Think 2 hour delay for ATC, but it’s turned into 4 hours because the ramp is understaffed and we can’t find a tug.
07-06-2025 | 08:08 AM
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3 years ago is quite a long time so your perspective is out of date. I don’t think JetBlue is the same at all since then when it comes to IROPS recovery.
We reset much faster now and haven’t had a major “meltdown” in a long time. I can think of 2 Delta meltdowns and the southwest meltdown that happened within that time.
We reset much faster now and haven’t had a major “meltdown” in a long time. I can think of 2 Delta meltdowns and the southwest meltdown that happened within that time.
). We've had it good with weather, with the American consumer and we're still facing significant headwinds.
07-06-2025 | 09:26 AM
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I can't think of any major weather storms that we've had to deal with "in a long time". No paralyzing snow storms or hurricanes for years (even with all the cloud seeding ). We've had it good with weather, with the American consumer and we're still facing significant headwinds.
). We've had it good with weather, with the American consumer and we're still facing significant headwinds.It’s not the intensity of the weather, it’s the delay programs that ensue from those weather events which are just as bad or worse. We’re all capable of picking our way around thunderstorms around NYC, if they didn’t make us wait three hours for our EDCT.
I also remember a few times in BOS this past winter where light rain turned into light ice pellets, into moderate ice pellets. Much worse than your two footer forecasted days in advanced.
07-06-2025 | 05:57 PM
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My perspective is not fresh I will contend…..however what I am told by those still there along with testimony from this forum……it suggests to me LITTLE improvement has been made.
However if you feel that the subsequent days after a meltdown now go smoother may that possibly be down to a lower volume of departures……..if so is that really a good sign?
However if you feel that the subsequent days after a meltdown now go smoother may that possibly be down to a lower volume of departures……..if so is that really a good sign?
literally lol’d
07-06-2025 | 08:52 PM
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Exactly. I don’t know how BK courts work but I’m sure the investors would be able to sell off assets (gates and planes) and that’s it. Slots don’t mean anything unless they’re sold or used to make money. JetBlue doesn’t make money so the only REAL value is to someone else. That alone doesn’t keep a failing airline from surviving. It’s like if google stopped making money but had their patents still. Okay you have patents but your core business doesn’t make money. You can sell the patents and then after that you’re still left with nothing.
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