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Old 05-01-2026 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Vernon Demerest
Less than .05% of UAL pilots post here. Please excuse the notables in this thread. The vast majority are on our own FB group arguing about expensing layover meals if the turbulence and flight time precludes crew meal consumption….I’m on record as stating a JB merger is very much on the table and would benefit UAL (yes- the pilots as well) with JFK/BOS and MCO/FLL. I fly 777s mostly out West so while it might not benefit me personally, it is a very nice compliment to our route structure. I think we will go through the normal SLI arguments and ultimately live with the arbitrator’s award. Life will go on and we will have an airline we can all be proud of.
I'll be another voice. While I'm not hoping for a merger for 1) admittedly very selfish reasons and 2) don't the benefit the legacy A320 fleet would benefit United especially in the current economic (fuel) climate and 3) mergers are always long, costly, and messy compared to the UAL aircraft order book...

I will say without hesitation that the JetBlue pilot group is the ONLY major pilot group I would ever hope for us to be tied up with.

Do not underestimate the Kirby talk about UAL and AAL as simply nonsense, it had a purpose. It's just that the purpose probably wasn't actually AAL...
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Old 05-01-2026 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingSlowly
I'll be another voice. While I'm not hoping for a merger for 1) admittedly very selfish reasons and 2) don't the benefit the legacy A320 fleet would benefit United especially in the current economic (fuel) climate and 3) mergers are always long, costly, and messy compared to the UAL aircraft order book...

I will say without hesitation that the JetBlue pilot group is the ONLY major pilot group I would ever hope for us to be tied up with.

Do not underestimate the Kirby talk about UAL and AAL as simply nonsense, it had a purpose. It's just that the purpose probably wasn't actually AAL...
this^. If it hasn’t been clearly evident during this current administration how announcements and new releases have manipulated markets and served a specific purpose, then this should be treated as the same. It was talks from in February. Why release it now? Why release it AT ALL? These are questions we need to ask. It was said to be floated during discussion but then Kirby releases a full statement? It’s all suspicious
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Old 05-02-2026 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingSlowly
I'll be another voice. While I'm not hoping for a merger for 1) admittedly very selfish reasons and 2) don't the benefit the legacy A320 fleet would benefit United especially in the current economic (fuel) climate and 3) mergers are always long, costly, and messy compared to the UAL aircraft order book...

I will say without hesitation that the JetBlue pilot group is the ONLY major pilot group I would ever hope for us to be tied up with.

Do not underestimate the Kirby talk about UAL and AAL as simply nonsense, it had a purpose. It's just that the purpose probably wasn't actually AAL...
Doubtful. SK’s focus is apparently on building an airline that can compete globally with some of the biggest international players, specifically naming the big ME carriers and their government subsidization.

JetBlue unfortunately offers nothing to facilitate that. Not branding, not any kind of valuable codeshare, not scale.
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Old 05-02-2026 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RStrawberry
Doubtful. SK’s focus is apparently on building an airline that can compete globally with some of the biggest international players, specifically naming the big ME carriers and their government subsidization.

JetBlue unfortunately offers nothing to facilitate that. Not branding, not any kind of valuable codeshare, not scale.
Lol....I love posts like this.

"SK’s focus is apparently on building an airline that can compete globally...."

And what better way to do that than to regain a MAJOR presence (not 7 slots) in one of the most important international airport in the Western Hemisphere. Probable THE most important one on the East Coast.

Add to it the fact he could add water and be the #1/#2 airline in BOS and FLL which would put major pressure on AA. His sworn enemy. Kind of like killing 2 birds with one stone.

Some of you are so myopic and can't thing strategically to save your lives.
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Old 05-02-2026 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
Lol....I love posts like this.

"SK’s focus is apparently on building an airline that can compete globally...."

And what better way to do that than to regain a MAJOR presence (not 7 slots) in one of the most important international airport in the Western Hemisphere. Probable THE most important one on the East Coast.

Add to it the fact he could add water and be the #1/#2 airline in BOS and FLL which would put major pressure on AA. His sworn enemy. Kind of like killing 2 birds with one stone.

Some of you are so myopic and can't thing strategically to save your lives.
I think it’s because JetBlue brings with it immense debt compared to the additional revenue.

It’s possible but I think it’s super unlikely.
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Old 05-02-2026 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RStrawberry
I think it’s because JetBlue brings with it immense debt compared to the additional revenue.

It’s possible but I think it’s super unlikely.
If a merger doesn't happen, the debt will not be the reason. It's not ideal but it won't be the deal breaker. I saw somewhere else that AA and DL have like $8B in cash on hand and UA has something crazy like $15B. Do they want to assume the debt? Will they if they believe getting a major foothold into JFK soon is critical to their strategic long range plan? I think they would. Time's ticking. Trump has less than 3 years left.

Also, after all the negative press of the Fed government blocking a merger only to see a major airline go out of business, I don't think there would be much political pushback should a new merger be announced soon. Especially with JB not having made a profit in like 7 years, they can paint a picture where JB would follow Spirit's path, and no one wants that on their hands.
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Old 05-02-2026 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
Lol....I love posts like this.

"SK’s focus is apparently on building an airline that can compete globally...."

And what better way to do that than to regain a MAJOR presence (not 7 slots) in one of the most important international airport in the Western Hemisphere. Probable THE most important one on the East Coast.

Add to it the fact he could add water and be the #1/#2 airline in BOS and FLL which would put major pressure on AA. His sworn enemy. Kind of like killing 2 birds with one stone.
Some of you are so myopic and can't thing strategically to save your lives.
And some of you are going to be really disappointed when this merger never materializes and we enter bankruptcy.
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Old 05-02-2026 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueDrlver
And some of you are going to be really disappointed when this merger never materializes and we enter bankruptcy.
I'd imagine all JB employees would be disappointed, not just some.
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Old 05-02-2026 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
I'd imagine all JB employees would be disappointed, not just some.
That's probably true but only some are going to be surprised.
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Old 05-02-2026 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueDrlver
That's probably true but only some are going to be surprised.
If we don't merge soon, I don't see how we avoid CH 11 with all the debt. But I think we'd head down the same path as Spirit. A smart reorganization would give JB a much longer runway to take advantage of what will surely be higher prices.
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