pilotpayne

Do we have 75 flights at once?

Gordie H

Seriously, let’s not miss the forest for the trees on this one…

He stays because he LIKES it here, he’s HAPPY here For the love of Zeus look at what the guy chose for a handle!

Why does he post all this stuff? It’s like the12 year old boy that’s mean to the pretty girl in his class…he just doesn’t know how to handle his attraction (to the girl wearing blue gloves).

I love scotch. Good evening.

PasserOGas

Dude, I wish I could put all these posts into a blue propaganda poster at the schoolhouse right in front of the coffee creamer.

pilotpayne

Actually I’ll stick up for the guy.
He did like it here and when he joined he was definitely happy to be here.
I think like many as well as me it’s the disappointment of watching management waste the potential of this airline and doing everything they claim they don’t. I understand management does what they do, just tired of them pretending they are different. If you don’t like your pilots or for that matter lately anyone or anything that costs money just say it.

There is just no leadership or direction. That part is frustrating. I don’t agree with how he does it and I do think he can be a little bit over the top, but I see where he is coming from.

Gordie H

My gut feeling is you’re probably right about our mgmt but I’m hoping not. I gotta say though I really don’t know jack about airline management or the corporate world - but I am rooting for our managers (not saying you aren’t )...this is the thing that puts food on my table. And they did pick the 220 - which was a big deal

Btw - I’ll bet you were a good big brother to have growing up

Rabid Seagull

I agree with your statement, except when management sends out emails like the one yesterday from John ______. It just illustrates how out-of-touch management really is and how they continue to live in their own Utopia.

" stand in the cockpit doorway" to say goodbye. I CAN'T, the lav cleaners are the first ones on the plane. BEFORE any of the customers have deplaned.

" thank the customers...together with our inflight" . Yeh, that may happen when you're working, but 85% of the time the inflight are too busy to say goodbye because they're ALREADY cleaning.

So nobody is around to say "good bye", you might as well just say "we're done with you folks, now get off our plane". That's what it seems like in the real world to the customers.

I am also rooting for our management, but they've created this and I'm not so sure they know how to correct it ( or even realize it's a problem).

Bluedriver

Um, management didn't choose the "stand in the doorway to say goodbye" option when they wrote the CBA....

That option required a higher level of investment than they were willing to make.

Same thing with SET and other fuel savings initiatives.

Restoring our profit sharing would have helped a lot on all those "good-will" initiatives. We asked, they said "no".

Their choice. Choices have consequences.

PasserOGas

You want me to go above and beyond? Stop treating me worse than my peers in every decision you make. Make me believe you value my contribution. Pretty simple really.

Bluedriver

Joe is correct. When I started here almost 8 years ago I did like it, and defended it to some degree on this site, and took feces for it sometimes. I still like aspects of my job, but most of that is seniority based, and I would be professionally unhappy dealing with these "industry leading" pairings if I was much more junior!

But when I got hired here we were growing much faster. We had an annual pay-review that kept our rates within a few percent of the the top guys. We got paid 150% for everything above 78 hours per month. We had better health insurance. No dependability policy. Oh, and almost no-one else was hiring at that time.

Relative to our peers, we were much closer to career parity. But management took almost everything I liked about it here through unilateral cuts. Just send an email, and another good thing about JB was gone. Over and over.

I still have a great standard of living and have a fairly remarkable life outside of JB. But that doesn't mean I won't point out the idiocy and baffoonery of our current trajectory.

Bluedriver

Um, yeah, cause nothing's changed at JB since I chose my handle 7-8 years ago...