I flew the line here before I came to training, and I don't side with the airline. You guys just don't seem to understand nuance. There is a difference between liking to clean, and complying with company policy when non revving. That's just one example. I understand that the company has the right to set policies as they see fit. I don't take it personally that they want to run the airline that way. I choose to nonrev, so part of that choice is complying with the policy that, in a perfect world, would be different. But it ain't.

My frustration with some of the rhetoric on here is that JetBlue management very clearly wants a certain kind of airline. And you guys are mad that the airline they want is different from what you want/expect. You're frustration is centered around that. You want to be more like Delta. JetBlue management wants to be less like Delta.

So when I say that you should apply to Delta if that's the case, it's not because I'm being snarky. I'm being serious. We aren't that. We never will be that. I hope that our pay, work rules, and benefits more closely align after the CBA, but we will still be an airline run by a management that doesn't want to look like a legacy carrier. So why not go where you seem to desire to be? Even if we get an industry leading contract, you're still going to be annoyed at the company when they send out communications that are typical JetBlue. Don't you want to work somewhere that you agree with philosophically, deep down?

So as I've said before, you don't have to hate JetBlue to want a good CBA. If you do hate JetBlue, I don't believe a good CBA will fix that for you, because it isn't the current contract that you hate.


And with that gentlemen, I'm out. If you want to talk with me, send me a PM. I'll even buy you a beer when you come through MCO sometime.

 

Management desires a pilot group who is willing to accept less to work here. The reality that this pilot group contains individuals who buy into this mentality and support it frustrates those who believe we are worth every penny of a major airline pilot. Managements belief is propagated through "values". Their strategy was on full display through a video produced by the MWW corporation in which it proudly duped Jetblue pilots. The video clearly stated it didn't matter whether the message was truthful but rather the repetition of the message is what would make it believable.
We will never be able to change the "just happy to be here" mentality at Jetblue and there is a place for that person, management. The rest of the pilot group will ensure the truth gets out and those who blindly support an attitude that walmarts our profession will be met with hinderance at every turn.

 

[QUOTE=atrdriver;2333129]Yet for months when called out for your baseless pro-management claims, you refuse to back them up (due to inability, of course).

It doesn't bother me since I know there's always a small percentage of your types at every airline. I just hope prospective applicants here don't take anything you post seriously.

The only thing that "keeps getting better" is this pilot group's unity against your buddies Bart and Paul and everyone else at LSC and OSC who are trying to keep us under a system that compensates us 30-40% less than our peers.[/QUOTE

You are the troll! I am doing plenty for this pilot group. You fail to acknowledge all the time. Which I find amusing. Part of the solution not the problem. How are you helping?

 

Throw mud! Real Classy. You have not a clue. Continue to hide behind that computer of yours and batter ALPA volunteers!

 

Hey Hyperboy you're an ALPA volunteer? Didn't realize that after the first 20 times you posted that.

Being an ALPA volunteer doesn't just give you blanket immunity to the things you post on here. Do you remember the phone tree a few months back? Does "management has lost the goodwill of the pilot group" ring a bell?

Where does your post about "things continue to get better" align with that message from our MEC?

 

All exactly right. Hyperchild you do more harm to this pilot group by hiding all the bad things about this place from prospective new hires than what you are *supposedly* doing on your token ALPA committee.

There is NOTHING to defend right now. Nothing.

And to Southerner: there is nothing about our current situation that calls for a devil's advocate. Nothing.

Provide a counter opinion after management has EARNED that privilege. If we are in fact on an expedited (probably not) negotiations path, then you won't have to hide your bluejuiciness for long. Right now you are sugar coating (lying) reality to prospective new hires about this company.

#keepsgettingbetter

 

You don't bash those you are helping the cause while those on the sidelines talk all about what is wrong or what should be doing. Thats all I am saying. You obviously are not reading the ALPA emails about the strides we are making.........

 

I hate to ruin your attack on ATR but I'm pretty sure they're an ALPA volunteer too... Who am I kidding? I love to ruin your attack! Carry on

 

Actually, you're the one hiding behind your keyboard- I sent you a pm a while back and can only presume you dont have the stones to respond.

You volunteer?
With the amount of bluejuice coming through your posts, I find that hard to believe.
Now go and type a snappy "comeback" for us.
#keepsgettingbetter

 

Youre just not seeing it from our perspective. Im sure I'd be juiced up if I were at the schoolhouse each day as well.

You sound intelligent, but your emotion seems to get the better of you when you staunchly defend a company that has proven NOT to be the bastion of a "people first" culture.

We were sold an idea by which we are expected to abide, however, the company can continually nibble away at QOL/pay and healthcare while you defend them.
I hope you get a few free lunches for advocating- Ill just eat my pizza during recurrent and keep my resume updated- as many of us are doing.
Good luck South- may you see the light when returning to the line.