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Old 12-23-2022, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Captainfit2 View Post
I’m not trolling, and less than a year.
If that’s the case my honest advice would be to stay at your regional for a few more months, learn, soak 121 flyn up like a sponge, go through a full winter season of crappy weather, deicing and such (perhaps even part of a negotiation cycle) at the same time apply directly to the legacies if that’s where you want to end up. It would make you a far more rounded and appreciated member of whatever team you’d end up with. Jumping from your regional to JB to legacy (these days) is a wasted step and effort in between for all involved. You don’t learn 121 ops in the schoolhouse (thats where you learn the basics of the plane and jargon like 3585 which u memorize but never apply nor understand)…. You learn on the line as you get comfortable and actually know what’s going on at a deeper level, that takes experience which takes time in one place.
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Old 12-23-2022, 03:29 PM
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Nothing you could say could offend me.
Well it seemed like that statement bothered you. Isn’t that what everyone is doing? Looking into who is best for them and their family?
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Old 12-23-2022, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Desdi View Post
If that’s the case my honest advice would be to stay at your regional for a few more months, learn, soak 121 flyn up like a sponge, go through a full winter season of crappy weather, deicing and such (perhaps even part of a negotiation cycle) at the same time apply directly to the legacies if that’s where you want to end up. It would make you a far more rounded and appreciated member of whatever team you’d end up with. Jumping from your regional to JB to legacy (these days) is a wasted step and effort in between for all involved. You don’t learn 121 ops in the schoolhouse (thats where you learn the basics of the plane and jargon like 3585 which u memorize but never apply nor understand)…. You learn on the line as you get comfortable and actually know what’s going on at a deeper level, that takes experience which takes time in one place.
Good advice, I was always told get out of the regional airline as soon as you can. I don’t absolutely need to end up at a legacy, and I know JB would be better than my regional if the “hiring” does stop. But, yes I am aiming for a legacy, like most young pilots. The regional I am at currently is pretty good in general. With that being said, is the industry seeing regional pilots from the right seat hired at legacies, I’ve only heard of a few. To upgrade where I am at will take as long as a LLC/Major unfortunately.
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Old 12-23-2022, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Desdi View Post
If that’s the case my honest advice would be to stay at your regional for a few more months, learn, soak 121 flyn up like a sponge, go through a full winter season of crappy weather, deicing and such (perhaps even part of a negotiation cycle) at the same time apply directly to the legacies if that’s where you want to end up. It would make you a far more rounded and appreciated member of whatever team you’d end up with. Jumping from your regional to JB to legacy (these days) is a wasted step and effort in between for all involved. You don’t learn 121 ops in the schoolhouse (thats where you learn the basics of the plane and jargon like 3585 which u memorize but never apply nor understand)…. You learn on the line as you get comfortable and actually know what’s going on at a deeper level, that takes experience which takes time in one place.
Good advice! I was always told to get out of the regional airline as quick as possible. I’m not sure if that “motto” is changing now? Wouldn’t it be better to be at a low cost/major if the “music” stops. I of course like most young pilots want to move onto a legacy. However, I do think I would be happier at a major if hiring stopped. Upgrade time at my current regional is comparable to most low cost operators, and pay is not comparable. Regional Fos are being picked up from legacies, I’ve heard of a few?

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Old 12-23-2022, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Captainfit2 View Post
Good advice! I was always told to get out of the regional airline as quick as possible. I’m not sure if that “motto” is changing now? Wouldn’t it be better to be at a low cost or major if the “music” stops. I of course like most young pilots want to move onto a legacy. However, I do think I would be happier at a major if hiring stopped. Upgrade time at my current regional is comparable to most low cost operators, and pay is not comparable. Regional Fos are being picked up from legacies, I’ve heard of a few?
I would say yes that applied until a year or two ago however that advice was usually directed towards regional pilots with several thousand hours of 121 time when getting a “bite” from a legacy was few and far between. Like you said regional FOs are getting picked up directly by the legacies, the game has changed dramatically in the last 12 months….. from your level of questions honestly it would do you well to get to know urself around the 121 world a bit more (I’m talking months not yrs), before you jump to a “major” just as a means to an end to jump to a legacy…. You’ll probably end up at a legacy in the same amount of time as if you went there directly but be a far less seasoned pilot once you get there since half your career will be spent awaiting IOE or in the schoolhouse. Best of luck regardless. Apply to where you could feel comfortable staying for the rest of your career, if that’s JB by all means go for it (with the eye of possibly moving on in due course), if not do yourself a favor and don’t bother, cause as you said once the music stops…. It stops.

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Old 12-25-2022, 09:21 AM
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How long to hold Newark for a new hire?
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Old 12-25-2022, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Griffinthefool View Post
How long to hold Newark for a new hire?
We do annual bids, so it varies depending on when you're hired. I don't think (I could be wrong) that there are any new hires going to EWR. If you get the E190, you'll be seat locked for a year, and you'll be able to bid to EWR once your seat lock is over.

If you get the A320 you could swap bases through the base swap system possibly. But most likely just bid in the August bid.
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Old 01-08-2023, 02:24 PM
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Hello,

I am a military pilot and I plan to change to airline transport, could someone please explain to me what the 75 hours of reserve guarantee consist of? and if they are paid the same as the guarantee flight hours. thanks


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Old 01-08-2023, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dcowboy37 View Post
Hello,

I am a military pilot and I plan to change to airline transport, could someone please explain to me what the 75 hours of reserve guarantee consist of? and if they are paid the same as the guarantee flight hours. thanks


Cordially,

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reserve guarantee is exactly that, if you are on reserve you are guaranteed to get 75 hours of pay at whatever seat/year rate that you are even if you never get called and do nothing the entire month. Basically you can count on that pay. If you fly some number under 75 hours you will still get 75 hrs pay.

Now, say the wheels are falling off (happens a lot here) and you are used every day you are on and
fly 83 for example. You will be paid above guarantee for those 83 hours because you exceeded reserve guarantee. Therefore your check(s) will reflect 83 hrs of pay.

Note that per diem applies too so when you get called out to fly, you will get per diem 24/7 from show time at base for that trip till duty off on the last day.
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Old 01-16-2023, 12:50 AM
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Does anyone by chance know the hiring mins at JB currently? Currently an FA-18 driver leaving next year applied today but got the auto kick back of TBNT. Was hoping someone has a way to contact the recruiting office directly? Thanks for the help!
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