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Old 03-08-2023, 12:35 PM
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“I applied in January, interviewed in February, started class on Monday”

To me this sounds as crazy as “I took the SAT in January, started medical school in February, did my first surgery today.”

Me: 6 years from first application to interview, 6 weeks until the Phase 2 email, then 6 months waiting for my class date.

I’m thrilled for these guys… but dang, was I born in the wrong century.
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Old 03-08-2023, 07:15 PM
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“I applied in January, interviewed in February, started class on Monday”

To me this sounds as crazy as “I took the SAT in January, started medical school in February, did my first surgery today.”

Me: 6 years from first application to interview, 6 weeks until the Phase 2 email, then 6 months waiting for my class date.

I’m thrilled for these guys… but dang, was I born in the wrong century.
My first time doing this process was drawn out as well( my early 20s) …months of waiting , class date 6 months out….this time the industry is different(40) …grateful, but I understand the sentiments.
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Old 03-09-2023, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
“I applied in January, interviewed in February, started class on Monday”

To me this sounds as crazy as “I took the SAT in January, started medical school in February, did my first surgery today.”

Me: 6 years from first application to interview, 6 weeks until the Phase 2 email, then 6 months waiting for my class date.

I’m thrilled for these guys… but dang, was I born in the wrong century.
It’s a different market for sure and I can’t fault anyone wanting to taking advantage, but I get where you’re coming from. I just hope the super young guys coming in understand how good they have it (me included). Btw, any tips for a new guy just getting ready to start? I’m late 20’s and I live here in Massachusetts, so no intention on leaving to a legacy, etc. Boston Logan is a 1:35 drive for me from where I currently live. I’d love to maximize time at home with the wife, but I’m not against picking up shifts for some extra $$ if I can.
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Old 03-09-2023, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
“I applied in January, interviewed in February, started class on Monday”

To me this sounds as crazy as “I took the SAT in January, started medical school in February, did my first surgery today.”

Me: 6 years from first application to interview, 6 weeks until the Phase 2 email, then 6 months waiting for my class date.

I’m thrilled for these guys… but dang, was I born in the wrong century.
It's best to not think about it, but hard not to.

My buddies and I had this same conversation recently. Took us about 10yrs from CFI to Jetblue. Years making crap wages, crap schedules, crap jobs. I had one of our gateway guys on my flight recently. CFI direct to Airbus. Had another guy ask me about JB since he was interested in applying. R-ATP, early 20s, and he asked about my background. When I listed off my jobs he goes "Wow, you've worked at A LOT of places!". Yeah no crap, that was the industry.
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Old 03-09-2023, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
“I applied in January, interviewed in February, started class on Monday”

To me this sounds as crazy as “I took the SAT in January, started medical school in February, did my first surgery today.”

Me: 6 years from first application to interview, 6 weeks until the Phase 2 email, then 6 months waiting for my class date.

I’m thrilled for these guys… but dang, was I born in the wrong century.
Everyone's path is different. I flew for the military for 10 years before I started on my civilian career. It's absolutely opened up a lot of doors and I'm thankful for that.
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Old 03-09-2023, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ExceedVne View Post
… Btw, any tips for a new guy just getting ready to start?...
Bid Boston, live in base, and bid reserve. Create a budget that stays under 75 hrs per month and be smart on how you save or spend the rest.

In other words, live well under your means. Don’t buy so much house, car, wife, or boat that you need to upgrade just to afford college or vacations.

Pay off your house as soon as you can and put enough money away that you can walk away from this career any time you want.

In this job, nobody’s crystal ball sees more than a couple years into the future. Whatever you do, don’t make 10-year financial decisions based on a 1-year job outlook. Spend the money you already have, not the money you might have depending on the next contract or projected upgrade times.
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Old 03-09-2023, 02:32 PM
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And always remember that when something bad happens to your airline, it usually happens to all of them. More so than at any other professional job in the country, when things are good they’re pretty great - and when times are bad, they’re miserable… for 5 or 10 years at a time. If the economy tanks a month after you get your seniority number, it’s too late to switch to Delta or United. You’re probably stuck where you’re stuck, even if it’s at the bottom of a stagnant seniority list.
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Old 03-10-2023, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
“I applied in January, interviewed in February, started class on Monday”

To me this sounds as crazy as “I took the SAT in January, started medical school in February, did my first surgery today.”

Me: 6 years from first application to interview, 6 weeks until the Phase 2 email, then 6 months waiting for my class date.

I’m thrilled for these guys… but dang, was I born in the wrong century.

Oh it’s completely different now. I have flown with a few guys that are just out of college in 2019 instructed, regional JetBlue and off to a major within 4 years. Totally different from the world I grew up in. We will see how long it lasts. So far they all seem to understand it’s just timing not that they are some super aviators.
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Old 03-11-2023, 04:32 AM
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No wait is b6 really downgrading people? If so I wonder how this is not happening at nk yet. Ah that's right. Nk can't turn a profit ATM.
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Old 03-11-2023, 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Swindler128 View Post
No wait is b6 really downgrading people? If so I wonder how this is not happening at nk yet. Ah that's right. Nk can't turn a profit ATM.
There were downgrades in 2020/2021 during the COVID shutdown.
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