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Old 08-05-2023 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ProPilotBlue
That's not necessarily true (re: seniority number). I don't think that we are at the point where the lists will be merged DOH. Nothing to that effect has been announced.
Seems like it should be pretty close to DOH, not a lot of difference in fleet or pilot group longevity.
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Old 08-05-2023 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Seems like it should be pretty close to DOH, not a lot of difference in fleet or pilot group longevity.
And we are talking about new hires long after the offer was made and accepted. That’s almost certainly date of hire for them. Those working at B6 and NK prior to the acceptance of the offer might go a mixture of DOH and relative seniority, but that wouldn’t affect someone only now applying.
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Old 08-05-2023 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BusBoe
How likely do new hires get a320?

do you know your equipment before you join the airline, or only up until the class?

I am already a320 typed, do not feel like learning a new plane and would rather stay with a320.
May I ask who you are currently flying the a320 for?

If you are in the US, there are only a couple answers. None of those would I leave for to come to JetBlue. I’d maybe look into United…as a320 is one of their most junior planes, where as at JetBlue it’s considered a widebody.

If you are NOT in the US, this is where I ask you: Are you familiar with E-3 or Resident Alien requirements?
PM me if not.

If you have just bought your type rating, that may help you in training a little bit……but remember you have no actual line flying experience.
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Old 08-05-2023 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BusBoe
How likely do new hires get a320?
I am already a320 typed, do not feel like learning a new plane and would rather stay with a320.
Originally Posted by Boomer
If you want 320 for sure, go to Spirit. Your seniority number at JetBlue would be the same in a couple years either way.
Yes. If you want to stay A320 go to Espirit. As stated above since you’d be hired after date of offer the acquisition was accepted it would have to be DOH, since no new hire can claim that they were adversely effected by the merger/acquisition since it is public information at this point. In addition to if you are a Florida person, you might just get an MCO or FLL base right away (you may and likely will get booted out during SLI) whereas a new hire at JB would probably never get a Florida base out of training.

If you just Can’t Just Can’t bear the thought of flying another plane, go to Frontier as with JetBlue Spirit you could get downgraded into A220 once the companies are merged.
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Old 08-05-2023 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BusBoe
How likely do new hires get a320?

do you know your equipment before you join the airline, or only up until the class?

I am already a320 typed, do not feel like learning a new plane and would rather stay with a320.
Originally Posted by Boomer
If you want 320 for sure, go to Spirit. Your seniority number at JetBlue would be the same in a couple years either way.


Yes. If you want to stay A320 go to Espirit. As stated above since you’d be hired after date of offer the acquisition was accepted it would have to be DOH, since no new hire can claim that they were adversely effected by the merger/acquisition since it is public information at this point. In addition to if you are a Florida person, you might just get an MCO or FLL base right away (you may and likely will get booted out during SLI) whereas a new hire at JB would probably never get a Florida base out of training.

If you just Can’t Just Can’t bear the thought of flying another plane, go to Frontier as with JetBlue Spirit you could get downgraded into A220 once the companies are merged.
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Old 08-05-2023 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ProPilotBlue
That's not necessarily true (re: seniority number). I don't think that we are at the point where the lists will be merged DOH. Nothing to that effect has been announced.
Anyone hired after merger announcement goes by DOH on the combined list.
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Old 08-06-2023 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto
Yes. If you want to stay A320 go to Espirit. As stated above since you’d be hired after date of offer the acquisition was accepted it would have to be DOH, since no new hire can claim that they were adversely effected by the merger/acquisition since it is public information at this point. In addition to if you are a Florida person, you might just get an MCO or FLL base right away (you may and likely will get booted out during SLI) whereas a new hire at JB would probably never get a Florida base out of training.

If you just Can’t Just Can’t bear the thought of flying another plane, go to Frontier as with JetBlue Spirit you could get downgraded into A220 once the companies are merged.
I doubt the company will pay for displacements unless they close a base. Nor is someone already flying 320s as an FO likely to be displaced to the 220. First, the combined company will be overwhelmingly 329 family for a long time and second, far cheaper to just new hire into the 220. Might make a difference in 320 upgrade times, but barring base closures, I think 320 FOs will just keep flying 320s
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Old 08-06-2023 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
I doubt the company will pay for displacements unless they close a base. Nor is someone already flying 320s as an FO likely to be displaced to the 220. First, the combined company will be overwhelmingly 329 family for a long time and second, far cheaper to just new hire into the 220. Might make a difference in 320 upgrade times, but barring base closures, I think 320 FOs will just keep flying 320s
But logic still stands ……the individual would be better off going to Espirit right now versus JB, as he or she may not get the widebody (a320) out of Indoc with JetBlue.
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Old 08-06-2023 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto
But logic still stands ……the individual would be better off going to Espirit right now versus JB, as he or she may not get the widebody (a320) out of Indoc with JetBlue.
Most certainly they aren’t getting anything BUT 320 family at NK.
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Old 08-07-2023 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Anyone hired after merger announcement goes by DOH on the combined list.
I highly doubt that. While it's possible, I doubt either pilot group would give up SLI rights to just do straight DOH, because well, it's stupid to do that. Many mergers have transpired where different formulas were used to calculate seniority position. Career expectations (time to upgrade) plays a large role in Seniority List Integrations. ALPA has entire seminars on SLI and mergers. Have you been to any formal Mergers Training? I have.
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