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Old 10-03-2015, 07:25 AM
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Old 10-03-2015, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16 View Post
Sounds like someone's taking this a little too personally.

The bottom line is the training department has a captive audience with the IOE class and could spend 1/2 day to go over FLICA and PBS and different techniques to improve QOL......

A Day In The Life is random, and can conflict with OE and line operations to the point that it becomes irrelevant by the time the pilot can finally attend.

Another wasted opportunity to do the right thing by the company to help the new guys get a running start on their career here....
That's what they are doing down in OSC. The scheduling comm. goes down there.......
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Old 10-04-2015, 07:25 AM
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When I went through a few years ago, a day in the life happened in base, and was mostly useless, at least when I went, as all of the "leaders" were distracted and the scheduling guy was a substitute. And it required an extra day away from home.

I think the issue is that it needs to be an actual scheduled part of regular new-hire training, not an "optional" class that you might miss. There is plenty of wasted time down there, and a factual informative class about bidding and schedule adjustment would not be wasted at all.

Heck, my crummy regional had the union come in and spend plenty of time going over PBS, with a lengthy and informative structured slide show. It was thorough enough to need a couple of breaks. They handed out a complete contact list, should you need any help, had company-paid union reps on call during the bidding windows. They also handed out a paper copy of the complete bidding guide to every new hire.

When you left the class, you knew how to bid. When the window opened, and you had real time questions, you knew who to call, and were able to reach them or get a quick call back.

My crummy regional showed the "caring" value when it came to showing pilots how to maximize their bidding power, whatever their seniority might be.

Honestly, I don't know what day in the life is like now. If it's like this, then I have no complaint, unless it's not a normal, scheduled, paid part of new-hire training, which it absolutely should be.
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Old 10-04-2015, 08:25 AM
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Hey guys, been off line for a while. But wanted to share this for those that asked about first year pay. My B6 one year anniversary date is next month, so three more paychecks but here's how it stacked up to date:

Gross =$36,234 (included 26.40 ground pay, 55.90 junior assignment, 109.53 e-learning, 1407.51 night override, 85.54 profit sharing, 125 medical allowance, and 2114.72 paid time off.) I did use a fair amount of Paid Time Off to deal with medical issues for a family member. This number does not include non tax per diem which was $2333.

Hired in Nov, hit the line 2nd week in January, reserve Jan through May with very little flying. Hybrid (build up) line in June. Line holder (Airbus JFK) July-present. Did 107hrs credit in July, 100 in August, and 99 in September through pick ups.
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Old 10-04-2015, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by LoudFastRules View Post
Honestly, I don't know what day in the life is like now. If it's like this, then I have no complaint, unless it's not a normal, scheduled, paid part of new-hire training, which it absolutely should be.
I asked for day in the life after a couple months on the line - said I never got it when I arrived in JFK. Never used PBS before. Chief Pilot removed me from schedule with pay and I commuted to MCO and back in the same day for the 4 hour course (held in the Lodge). If you've never used PBS it holds some value. The scheduling guys explained the system logic in depth.
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Old 10-04-2015, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation View Post
Hey guys, been off line for a while. But wanted to share this for those that asked about first year pay. My B6 one year anniversary date is next month, so three more paychecks but here's how it stacked up to date:

Gross =$36,234 (included 26.40 ground pay, 55.90 junior assignment, 109.53 e-learning, 1407.51 night override, 85.54 profit sharing, 125 medical allowance, and 2114.72 paid time off.) I did use a fair amount of Paid Time Off to deal with medical issues for a family member. This number does not include non tax per diem which was $2333.

Hired in Nov, hit the line 2nd week in January, reserve Jan through May with very little flying. Hybrid (build up) line in June. Line holder (Airbus JFK) July-present. Did 107hrs credit in July, 100 in August, and 99 in September through pick ups.
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Old 10-04-2015, 08:57 AM
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I get the, "bank your PTO (paid time off) and sell it back" paradigm for extra cash, I just needed the days off and couldn't take them unpaid in order to meet current - as opposed to future - obligations. So I used at least 2 days every month of PTO, which of course, you don't have to do. Still, because it's paid it is reflective of what you can expect to make in year 1.
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Old 10-04-2015, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation View Post
Hey guys, been off line for a while. But wanted to share this for those that asked about first year pay. My B6 one year anniversary date is next month, so three more paychecks but here's how it stacked up to date:

Gross =$36,234 (included 26.40 ground pay, 55.90 junior assignment, 109.53 e-learning, 1407.51 night override, 85.54 profit sharing, 125 medical allowance, and 2114.72 paid time off.) I did use a fair amount of Paid Time Off to deal with medical issues for a family member. This number does not include non tax per diem which was $2333.

Hired in Nov, hit the line 2nd week in January, reserve Jan through May with very little flying. Hybrid (build up) line in June. Line holder (Airbus JFK) July-present. Did 107hrs credit in July, 100 in August, and 99 in September through pick ups.

Thanks for posting. Hopefully the bonus at the end of the year will help out a bit.
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Old 10-04-2015, 09:50 AM
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Hopefully the bonus at the end of the year will help out a bit.
Definitely, it will! It is my understanding the DEC class was the last class to get the bonus. Also as for base updates I talked to my classmates recently and they advised A320 BOS still on reserve as well as JFK190 (NOV hire date). Two guys from my group started in JFK and just got LGB. I've tried for FLL three times now and seniority won't hold it yet.
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I've tried for FLL three times now and seniority won't hold it yet.
As a Line holder or reserve? I thought FLL was possible after about 6 months seniority if you can do it reserve?
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