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Old 12-12-2020, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800 View Post
If you believe the bluepilots poll, captain will be almost all people senior to 1000.
and that will be really funny when a seniorish 320 cpt all of a sudden has to go back to scr. I won’t feel bad at all. I hope it’s mostly
190 cpts so I get more senior but that’s just me...
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Old 12-12-2020, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SaintNick View Post
and that will be really funny when a seniorish 320 cpt all of a sudden has to go back to scr. I won’t feel bad at all. I hope it’s mostly
190 cpts so I get more senior but that’s just me...
I’d guess only a handful of 320 CA’s bid it. Only guys that can’t hold BOS. I bet 5 guys maybe. No one is going to take a pay cut right now for an unknown QOL change.
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Old 12-12-2020, 02:42 PM
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AIP between management and negotiating committee.
if MEC approves, TA will go to member ratification.
Doesn’t sound too good.
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Old 12-12-2020, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip View Post
AIP between management and negotiating committee.
if MEC approves, TA will go to member ratification.
Doesn’t sound too good.
What doesn’t sound good? It says voluntary cost saving measures and CBA relief. If it was a pay cut, it wouldn’t really be voluntary. I see the “CBA relief” as some sort of furtherance of the AA deal, or other codeshare relief. We will find out soon enough I suppose. Any mandatory pay cut is a hard no for me.
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip View Post
AIP between management and negotiating committee.
if MEC approves, TA will go to member ratification.
Doesn’t sound too good.

lolol dude come on. You legit know nothing.

go back to your basement.
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Old 12-12-2020, 04:03 PM
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maybe not have bus fo’s making 700k during a pandemic?
Good place to start. I’ve honestly lost count of the guys I’ve flown with who have credited 150+ with ease on a monthly basis since March. Take the biggest flica ninjas we have on a bad day... then give them 70 hours credit to start and 24 days off and it’s like shooting fish in a barrel.

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Old 12-12-2020, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800 View Post
If you believe the bluepilots poll, captain will be almost all people senior to 1000.
LOTS of dudes, senior dudes, will bid A220 Capt, all trying to be top 30%.

A lot of those guys will end up not being awarded the aircraft because of the seniority percentage bid protection they assign themselves.

The question for the bottom 10-20 A220 awards is how senior will the dudes be who leave the seniority percentage blank or allow themselves to be 95-100%?
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Old 12-12-2020, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800 View Post
I’d guess only a handful of 320 CA’s bid it. Only guys that can’t hold BOS. I bet 5 guys maybe. No one is going to take a pay cut right now for an unknown QOL change.
I know for certain that a lot of A320 CAs are thinking about A220 Capt. They all want to be top 10-20-30%, which they obviously can't all be. So I'm sure most if not all will have a seniority bid safety net, and a lot of dudes will unexpectedly block themselves from the A220.
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Old 12-12-2020, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip View Post
AIP between management and negotiating committee.
if MEC approves, TA will go to member ratification.
Doesn’t sound too good.
I didn’t get a bad feeling from that email. On the contrary, it sounds like they’ve found a way to mitigate furloughs without tearing into the contract. Who knows, but at least it’s going to member ratification, so all the wack jobs on Blue Pilots can stop hyperventilating.
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Old 12-12-2020, 07:31 PM
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No offense to any of the guys at risk of furlough, but our contract already contemplates tough times and was never especially generous. So I'm not interested in giving back anything in the contract to avoid furloughs. History shows that items "temporarily" given back often take much longer than expected or promised to be reinstated, sometimes they never are. They don't even help the company all that much; it's just them not letting a crisis go to waste so they can lock in cost cuts indefinitely. No pilot concessions ever saved a company.

The covid LOA softened the contract language enough for the company to react to current events, especially in regard to the AA codeshare. If that's not enough then the company has deeper issues than the pilot contract and we'd be fools to be stampeded into giving them more than what they need on the basis of doom and gloom forecasts. That story never ends well.
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