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Old 10-26-2022, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
You have this opinion because you are a local. Half the airline is commuters. Commuters don't have access to VDA/RSA like you locals, generally, so the only way they can add pay is to pick up straight open time. Of course you guys don't like that because if the open time gets picked up, they won't have to pay premium at the last minute to the locals.

You want the commuters to give up their only (generally) lever to add pay, so that you locals can jack your own checks to the moon. Under the current system, there is no way for both groups to win.
we need any open time gets 1.5 in jcba
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Old 10-26-2022, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SaintNick View Post
we need any open time gets 1.5 in jcba
100% agree with this. I’m local, but our entire open time system needs a complete overhaul. I hate the way this company runs on VDA/RSA. And yes, picking up anything during a labor dispute will be infuriating. Yet undoubtedly, pilots will do it.
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Old 10-27-2022, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
You have this opinion because you are a local. Half the airline is commuters. Commuters don't have access to VDA/RSA like you locals, generally, so the only way they can add pay is to pick up straight open time. Of course you guys don't like that because if the open time gets picked up, they won't have to pay premium at the last minute to the locals.

You want the commuters to give up their only (generally) lever to add pay, so that you locals can jack your own checks to the moon. Under the current system, there is no way for both groups to win.
No I don’t Blue. This was response to the post before mine in regards to pilots on VDA during a labor dispute. During non labor dispute times I have no issues with local or commuting pilots picking up trips at straight pay. During our last labor dispute the same pilots who would pick up straight pay trips would turn around and ridicule pilots for being on VDA. We either all stand together or we don’t during a labor dispute.
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Old 10-27-2022, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Climbto450 View Post
No I don’t Blue. This was response to the post before mine in regards to pilots on VDA during a labor dispute. During non labor dispute times I have no issues with local or commuting pilots picking up trips at straight pay. During our last labor dispute the same pilots who would pick up straight pay trips would turn around and ridicule pilots for being on VDA. We either all stand together or we don’t during a labor dispute.
Can't disagree with you there...
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Old 10-27-2022, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by I was inverted View Post
Just be cognizant of the fact that a labor dispute is looming, likely to occur in the very short term. Legal disclaimer: I’m not advocating one way or another about picking up VDAs during a labor dispute, just wanted to make sure you were aware that it’s likely coming, and soon.
Absolutely. Although I am still less than 5 years in to the airline industry as a whole I don't plan on doing anything extra when it comes to that. I honestly don't do anything extra now. I show up do my trips I have on my schedule and go home. I agree though about no pickups of any kind when it gets to that bridge. I don't live in base either so I'm doubtful if I even do VDA that I'd get called. I've only been cold called once when a flight diverted to my blue city and I didn't pickup.
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Old 10-27-2022, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SaintNick View Post
we need any open time gets 1.5 in jcba
One of the things I added to the surveys. That and a complete overhaul of the reserve system. No need for all the different grids.
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Old 10-27-2022, 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SaintNick View Post
we need any open time gets 1.5 in jcba
And open time should be tied to IROPs as well. During a level 2, it should be 200% and during a level 3, it should be 300%.
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Old 10-27-2022, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by SaintNick View Post
I know… weakest pilot group I have ever seen.
You know, statements like this, doesn't help the situation. It is disrespectful to talk like this towards your own group and you would never say this to their face. I can see others saying "F u and this contract/LOA then, I don't give a Sht what you think" and completely disregard any good insight you might have given to sway a decision one way or the other. You and others who completely disrespect the pilot group like this, helps to destroy any unity we could have built.

You're upset that someone choose to vote opposite to your liking? Fine, that's democracy, but keep it respectful. My ass was pis$ed LOA 17 passed. Here I am not trying to be an As$ to someone who voted FOR it, or sit on a forum calling my fellow pilots weak after all the dust settled.

Maybe it's aging that gives impatience (thought that would be opposite), but I hope I don't turn out like this.
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Old 10-27-2022, 05:40 AM
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Agreed. Insulting the pilot group just cause you didn’t get what YOU wanted just makes you a condescending douche. Something nobody likes
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Old 10-27-2022, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Bgood View Post
You know, statements like this, doesn't help the situation. It is disrespectful to talk like this towards your own group and you would never say this to their face. I can see others saying "F u and this contract/LOA then, I don't give a Sht what you think" and completely disregard any good insight you might have given to sway a decision one way or the other. You and others who completely disrespect the pilot group like this, helps to destroy any unity we could have built.

You're upset that someone choose to vote opposite to your liking? Fine, that's democracy, but keep it respectful. My ass was pis$ed LOA 17 passed. Here I am not trying to be an As$ to someone who voted FOR it, or sit on a forum calling my fellow pilots weak after all the dust settled.

Maybe it's aging that gives impatience (thought that would be opposite), but I hope I don't turn out like this.
I’ve told many captains during the last contract cycle who picked up vda and going above and beyond to help the company that they wrote hurting them while group.
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