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Old 10-29-2022, 05:07 PM
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What doesn’t make sense to me is why premium isn’t used more often?
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Old 10-29-2022, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Softpayman
What doesn’t make sense to me is why premium isn’t used more often?
it was for a while….problem is nobody was stupid enough to pick it up because they know the VDA calls were going to be plentiful as soon as CS options ran out.

I ended up triple time for my own trip earlier this year. I got kicked off paid for training because they needed it for some captain’s consolidation. The guy called in sick so it went back in as open time. It got the premium X put next to it so I put myself on VDA and got called for my own trip.
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Old 10-29-2022, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Climbto450
I would love to see what Spirit has for a premium time / VDA equivalent. Might be easier to pass if they have a bucket system like I mentioned. Agreed it would be an uphill battle with our current group.
It is very very FAIR to all who volunteer here at NK. You put your name on what’s called the X/Y List. The names are in seniority order, but once you accept a trip you move down the list. All the guys with 0 hours for the month/year will be above you. Eventually you’ll be back up near the top as others fly and credit and go below you etc etc.

There is a daily call log and you can see who was called, at what time, and whether they left a VM or actually talked to the pilot. You’ll also see the people they didn’t call and skipper over and the reason given - (I.E the X list trip would have conflicted with their regular schedule).

Its a pretty solid system here and one most everyone will be inclined (I assume you guys as well when you learn of it) in the JCBA. 👍🏻
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Old 10-30-2022, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by avi8orco
it was for a while….problem is nobody was stupid enough to pick it up because they know the VDA calls were going to be plentiful as soon as CS options ran out.

I ended up triple time for my own trip earlier this year. I got kicked off paid for training because they needed it for some captain’s consolidation. The guy called in sick so it went back in as open time. It got the premium X put next to it so I put myself on VDA and got called for my own trip.
FO side perhaps. CA side guys are tripping over themselves for straight pay and picking up Drops on the trade board. Premium usually goes quick but sure enough VDA gets used to a large degree.
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Old 10-30-2022, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by CAirBear
It is very very FAIR to all who volunteer here at NK. You put your name on what’s called the X/Y List. The names are in seniority order, but once you accept a trip you move down the list. All the guys with 0 hours for the month/year will be above you. Eventually you’ll be back up near the top as others fly and credit and go below you etc etc.

There is a daily call log and you can see who was called, at what time, and whether they left a VM or actually talked to the pilot. You’ll also see the people they didn’t call and skipper over and the reason given - (I.E the X list trip would have conflicted with their regular schedule).

Its a pretty solid system here and one most everyone will be inclined (I assume you guys as well when you learn of it) in the JCBA. 👍🏻
This is a solid explanation of what we have here at NK. It works really well. You get a call and accept a 15 hour trip, your position on the list now falls below all who have accepted fewer than 15 hours. Some guys who are senior enough will drop their entire months and rack up the premium hours early in the year because they have kids and want to spend the summer with them, then cruise through the rest of the year. Some guys who don’t have kids or whose kids are out of the house will not list at all until summer time comes along and accept everything that comes their way because a lot will since they are starting at 0 in June. The system makes it so you can work it in the way that fits your lifestyle. For each “bucket” of hours, the calls go in seniority order.
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Old 10-30-2022, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by YellowBusMarine
This is a solid explanation of what we have here at NK. It works really well. You get a call and accept a 15 hour trip, your position on the list now falls below all who have accepted fewer than 15 hours. Some guys who are senior enough will drop their entire months and rack up the premium hours early in the year because they have kids and want to spend the summer with them, then cruise through the rest of the year. Some guys who don’t have kids or whose kids are out of the house will not list at all until summer time comes along and accept everything that comes their way because a lot will since they are starting at 0 in June. The system makes it so you can work it in the way that fits your lifestyle. For each “bucket” of hours, the calls go in seniority order.
Thanks,I like that way more than our system. NK pilots stand strong and I will vote for that.
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Old 10-30-2022, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by YellowBusMarine
This is a solid explanation of what we have here at NK. It works really well. You get a call and accept a 15 hour trip, your position on the list now falls below all who have accepted fewer than 15 hours. Some guys who are senior enough will drop their entire months and rack up the premium hours early in the year because they have kids and want to spend the summer with them, then cruise through the rest of the year. Some guys who don’t have kids or whose kids are out of the house will not list at all until summer time comes along and accept everything that comes their way because a lot will since they are starting at 0 in June. The system makes it so you can work it in the way that fits your lifestyle. For each “bucket” of hours, the calls go in seniority order.

Now that’s a keeper. I feel like Milton getting no cake.
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Old 10-31-2022, 06:48 AM
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Can anyone give a quick update on the new recurrent? When is the PPS e learning 1 and 2 due? Do you only study the SPV study guide for the oral? Thanks in advance guys.
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Old 10-31-2022, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by panpanpan
Can anyone give a quick update on the new recurrent? When is the PPS e learning 1 and 2 due? Do you only study the SPV study guide for the oral? Thanks in advance guys.
Yes the oral is only the 119 ish slide deck from the SPV study guide, so much better. You can do the PPS e-learning prior or on your own at the end of day 1.
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Old 11-01-2022, 02:38 AM
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October numbers

attrition - 33
new hires - 88

total for 2022 so far
attrition - 275
new hires - 688

4,733 total pilots as of yesterday.
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