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11-02-2022, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ARL120384
We all know that not picking up trips during a dispute has no effect on negotiations. I'll three engine taxi with the best of them, but I'd be remiss if anyone is going to tell me how to make money and support my family during a labor dispute, or any other time for that matter.
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11-02-2022, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ARL120384
We all know that not picking up trips during a dispute has no effect on negotiations. I'll three engine taxi with the best of them, but I'd be remiss if anyone is going to tell me how to make money and support my family during a labor dispute, or any other time for that matter.
Now flame away keyboard commandos!
Now flame away keyboard commandos!
11-02-2022, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Bgood
Your opinion to justify your actions.
Anyway, you said "or any other time for that matter". What if we went on a strike? What would you do?
Anyway, you said "or any other time for that matter". What if we went on a strike? What would you do?
ahhh and that is the flaw. I guess the union can’t tell this pilot we are on strike. I mean if we go by that pilots logic I guess it would be fine to cross the line you know to provide for their family.
Not covering trips is the fastest way to stop everything. It would absolutely work and it would happen fast. You would have an operational meltdown that the media would cover. The media does not care about 3 engine taxi. While JetBlue might talk about fuel the one thing they can’t abide is bad publicity.
This isn’t hard. So yes when it comes to a labor dispute if you are still picking up trips you are the problem.
11-02-2022, 06:25 AM
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Take a tip from a fellow Spirit pilot, stop this insane talk on the forums about what should be picked up and not picked up, etc.
The Southern District of Florida in 2017 didn’t like discussions like this and don’t think for a second any meltdown by the company can’t be blamed on the union and sued in court.
The Southern District of Florida in 2017 didn’t like discussions like this and don’t think for a second any meltdown by the company can’t be blamed on the union and sued in court.
11-02-2022, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
ahhh and that is the flaw. I guess the union can’t tell this pilot we are on strike. I mean if we go by that pilots logic I guess it would be fine to cross the line you know to provide for their family.
Not covering trips is the fastest way to stop everything. It would absolutely work and it would happen fast. You would have an operational meltdown that the media would cover. The media does not care about 3 engine taxi. While JetBlue might talk about fuel the one thing they can’t abide is bad publicity.
This isn’t hard. So yes when it comes to a labor dispute if you are still picking up trips you are the problem.
Not covering trips is the fastest way to stop everything. It would absolutely work and it would happen fast. You would have an operational meltdown that the media would cover. The media does not care about 3 engine taxi. While JetBlue might talk about fuel the one thing they can’t abide is bad publicity.
This isn’t hard. So yes when it comes to a labor dispute if you are still picking up trips you are the problem.
Just make sure your post is equally targeted at the pilots family who had children with unforeseen medical issues with a lifetime of medications and doctors visits. And even at our salary, still has to work his ass off to pay the bills. Make sure you tell them Joe said No to picking up trips!
11-02-2022, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ARL120384
Hey, I won't be picking up trips, but if it's a VDA, the trips pick me!
Just make sure your post is equally targeted at the pilots family who had children with unforeseen medical issues with a lifetime of medications and doctors visits. And even at our salary, still has to work his ass off to pay the bills. Make sure you tell them Joe said No to picking up trips!
Just make sure your post is equally targeted at the pilots family who had children with unforeseen medical issues with a lifetime of medications and doctors visits. And even at our salary, still has to work his ass off to pay the bills. Make sure you tell them Joe said No to picking up trips!
11-02-2022, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
Take a tip from a fellow Spirit pilot, stop this insane talk on the forums about what should be picked up and not picked up, etc.
The Southern District of Florida in 2017 didn’t like discussions like this and don’t think for a second any meltdown by the company can’t be blamed on the union and sued in court.
The Southern District of Florida in 2017 didn’t like discussions like this and don’t think for a second any meltdown by the company can’t be blamed on the union and sued in court.
11-02-2022, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by I was inverted
Doesn’t JetBlue insurance have an out of pocket max?
Last edited by ARL120384; 11-02-2022 at 07:33 AM.
11-02-2022, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by IAFDOF
Does anything in this post make sense to anyone? Is this like a cryptogram?
We have 22 aircraft 'scheduled' in 2023.
In the past deliveries have always been flexible dates plus we have E190s retiring fast and THEN we invested (pulled the operation back) to provide stability of the operation.
So we are, you may not like to hear this, over staffed. 15% more pilots on property than same time in 2019 with less flying.
Recession is on the horizon and everyone is going to need a chair when the music stops. Of the pilots that I fly with 1/2 are leaving and 1/2 would rather be furloughed at DAL, UAL than here. Not saying that is sound thinking, but that is what they are saying.
11-02-2022, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by I was inverted
Doesn’t JetBlue insurance have an out of pocket max?
In our largest base that is over $40k of income.
1/4 of a mid level FOs annual pay?
Last edited by BlueJetDork; 11-02-2022 at 07:58 AM.
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