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Old 06-22-2025 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
Well that was fast. Do our route planners research this stuff or are they just guessing? I’m honestly starting to get concerned. I think this guy is from frontier and we were told how smart he is. But have we seen anything work?
Well with Fronteir on his resumè, who could resist. I’m sure Delta was tripping all over themselves trying to land him.
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Old 06-23-2025 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
To be fair the frontier guys were not happy that he left. They said he seemed like the only competent one there. Watching the company videos he does seem very smart, I’m just confused on what the strategy is and who is exactly coming up with it. Just seems like we are in retreat mode everywhere.

We were told we needed to pull back stuff from the west because it wasn’t profitable but we would deploy it in the east, except now all we are doing is shrinking in the east as well. Delta is just going to keep putting their 175s all over us. These dudes need to plant a flag somewhere and apparently it’s a white one.
So the strategy is called JetForward and using borrowed money to run the airline. Also, as part of that core strategy is to shrink the entire airline so we never make money. We are well over a year into this strategy and what a surprise nothings changed.
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Old 06-23-2025 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by gottagetout
So the strategy is called JetForward and using borrowed money to run the airline. Also, as part of that core strategy is to shrink the entire airline so we never make money. We are well over a year into this strategy and what a surprise nothings changed.
At first, I thought they had what it took to turn this place around. Yet, it’s a continuation of the blame game of everything else around them. There are so many places we want to fly to, but no aircraft. Let’s just defer our order. Understandable, but then, hey, we are parking 320s as well. Excited to launch A to B route and connect so and so, we are pulling out to search of more profitable routes. The emails went from we have levers to pull to weather the storm to a tone shift of a wake up call.
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Old 06-23-2025 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by PeakEGT
At first, I thought they had what it took to turn this place around. Yet, it’s a continuation of the blame game of everything else around them. There are so many places we want to fly to, but no aircraft. Let’s just defer our order. Understandable, but then, hey, we are parking 320s as well. Excited to launch A to B route and connect so and so, we are pulling out to search of more profitable routes. The emails went from we have levers to pull to weather the storm to a tone shift of a wake up call.
Absolutely correct! A year ago it seemed like they were on it. It now seems like everyone has given up. And I’m really shocked the c suite is confused as to why morale here across the board is in the toilet. If they can’t understand that, why are they here? Oh yeah to collect their golden parachutes when this place goes away.
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Old 06-23-2025 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PeakEGT
At first, I thought they had what it took to turn this place around. Yet, it’s a continuation of the blame game of everything else around them. There are so many places we want to fly to, but no aircraft. Let’s just defer our order. Understandable, but then, hey, we are parking 320s as well. Excited to launch A to B route and connect so and so, we are pulling out to search of more profitable routes. The emails went from we have levers to pull to weather the storm to a tone shift of a wake up call.
Makes you wonder is there a disconnect between the board, CEO, COO, Network. Are there no suitors for this airline, has United taken a peek at the finances and seen something they don’t like?
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Old 06-23-2025 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by benzoate
Makes you wonder is there a disconnect between the board, CEO, COO, Network. Are there no suitors for this airline, has United taken a peek at the finances and seen something they don’t like?
For the first point….yes huge disconnect with the BOD. They’ve also allowed JetBlue to be run into the ground. Suitors? Who knows, I’m assuming it’s JetBlues debt that is turning everyone off. But hey we had the second best balance sheet going into COVID…..
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Old 06-23-2025 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by gottagetout
Absolutely correct! A year ago it seemed like they were on it. It now seems like everyone has given up. And I’m really shocked the c suite is confused as to why morale here across the board is in the toilet. If they can’t understand that, why are they here? Oh yeah to collect their golden parachutes when this place goes away.
No one in leadership gives a **** about front line worker’s morale!
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Old 06-23-2025 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by benzoate
has United taken a peek at the finances and seen something they don’t like?
What, like 9B in debt?

I agree with you guys; our masterplan isn’t working. We’re supposedly shifting our network to our strengths, but we just keep dropping flights, and the routes we add end within a couple months, or don’t start at all. Boston is a shell of what it once was, nevermind “Boston 200.” We’re also still stone-dead last in reliability for non-ULCC carriers.

We’ll be net positive on airframes with the A220 soon; where are we gonna put them if we don’t even have anywhere to fly the jets we already have?

I don’t see how this doesn’t end in Ch 11. The good news there would be we might actually be hot enough for someone to want us once we lose all that debt around our waist.
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Old 06-24-2025 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MergingTargets
What, like 9B in debt?

I agree with you guys; our masterplan isn’t working. We’re supposedly shifting our network to our strengths, but we just keep dropping flights, and the routes we add end within a couple months, or don’t start at all. Boston is a shell of what it once was, nevermind “Boston 200.” We’re also still stone-dead last in reliability for non-ULCC carriers.

We’ll be net positive on airframes with the A220 soon; where are we gonna put them if we don’t even have anywhere to fly the jets we already have?

I don’t see how this doesn’t end in Ch 11. The good news there would be we might actually be hot enough for someone to want us once we lose all that debt around our waist.
I think the current heat dome and extreme heat has caused people to postpone or cancel their travel plans. It’s not really fair to blame future financial loses on management decisions.
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Old 06-24-2025 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by benzoate
I think the current heat dome and extreme heat has caused people to postpone or cancel their travel plans. It’s not really fair to blame future financial loses on management decisions.
Not to mention Port Authority passing on the cost of their fare reduction on the AirTrain to us. The headwinds don’t stop.
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