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11-08-2016, 09:21 AM
#1741
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,316
Originally Posted by dontcare4U
A ****load of taxes taken out of my PS check. Also, is it normal to have child support taken out? Can't remember that ever happening with my former companies
11-08-2016, 09:24 AM
#1742
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Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: Left,Right, Left, Right,Right,Left, Right, Left
Posts: 3,150
Originally Posted by P-3Bubba
Cool,
I have spoken NC memebers. I have been assured we're kicking a$$ and taking names. But, well...that was before we changed horses mid-stream. I bet you could poll 100 jblue pilots and 1% could name someone on the NC. How about MEC? I'd say 2% could name 1.
That's why the TA passes and the CBA will blow. I would rather take a sub par DR PEA and keep my union dues, versus waiting 5 years for The same deal in a CBA.
-Bubs
I have spoken NC memebers. I have been assured we're kicking a$$ and taking names. But, well...that was before we changed horses mid-stream. I bet you could poll 100 jblue pilots and 1% could name someone on the NC. How about MEC? I'd say 2% could name 1.
That's why the TA passes and the CBA will blow. I would rather take a sub par DR PEA and keep my union dues, versus waiting 5 years for The same deal in a CBA.
-Bubs
So if I have this straight you're just poopy pants because you have to pay dues to ALPA and didn't get instant gratification? These things take time. We're way behind in all aspects of compensation and the DR was not designed in any way to catch us up ever. The PEA and a CBA are far... far apart from the same deal.
11-08-2016, 09:51 AM
#1743
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 522
Originally Posted by P-3Bubba
So Profit Sharing checks are going out today. If the average JetBlue pilot paid $200 in ALPA dues just in profit sharing. That's $640,000 to ALPA. We don't have a CBA? Please, bring on the "Man, you don't even know comments, man". "Man, it's a dog world out there, man".
They better hurry up with that CBA. Now that we lost our profit sharing, there won't be a million dollar windfall each year.
-Bubs
They better hurry up with that CBA. Now that we lost our profit sharing, there won't be a million dollar windfall each year.
-Bubs
11-08-2016, 11:11 AM
#1744
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Joined APC: Aug 2008
Posts: 814
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Ha! Save 2% in union dues and leave 30% total compensation and benefits on the table by staying non-union. Genius!
You guys should really just stop engaging him. Way too far gone to save.
You guys should really just stop engaging him. Way too far gone to save.
11-08-2016, 12:18 PM
#1745
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Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 155
I don't agree with Bubba 100%. I know I risk the union mafia attacking me by saying this, but it's taking too long to get a CBA. We have been paying dues for over 2 years. For 99% of us that's just money down the drain. Protections. Protections from what? It's such a small group that encounters this, and yes having alpa at your back is nice. However I don't feel sorry for the group that can't show up on time, can't talk to people right, can't wear their uniform right, can't follow SOP, ect. For the majority it has been a 2% pay cut for nothing. I am optimistic that we will get a good CBA, who knows, no way to tell now what we would of got with the DR, better? Worse? Probably worse than the initial CBA, but who knows. It's just taking to long. We are throwing huge sums of money at Alpa. Get it done. Why is that so hard. Millions of dollars a year are going into their pocket. I know it's a contract from scratch, not really though. Are we waiting for the economy to take a ****? Are we expecting TA1 at the end of 2017 just to vote no and get TA2 at the end of 2018. That would be 4 years of dues with no contract. That's not winning. We pay dues and watch all the other carriers get 25-30% raises, really. I understand why bubs is mad, and soon there will be many more like him.
11-08-2016, 12:37 PM
#1746
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Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,445
Originally Posted by WhiteHammer
I don't agree with Bubba 100%. I know I risk the union mafia attacking me by saying this, but it's taking too long to get a CBA. We have been paying dues for over 2 years. For 99% of us that's just money down the drain. Protections. Protections from what? It's such a small group that encounters this, and yes having alpa at your back is nice. However I don't feel sorry for the group that can't show up on time, can't talk to people right, can't wear their uniform right, can't follow SOP, ect. For the majority it has been a 2% pay cut for nothing. I am optimistic that we will get a good CBA, who knows, no way to tell now what we would of got with the DR, better? Worse? Probably worse than the initial CBA, but who knows. It's just taking to long. We are throwing huge sums of money at Alpa. Get it done. Why is that so hard. Millions of dollars a year are going into their pocket. I know it's a contract from scratch, not really though. Are we waiting for the economy to take a ****? Are we expecting TA1 at the end of 2017 just to vote no and get TA2 at the end of 2018. That would be 4 years of dues with no contract. That's not winning. We pay dues and watch all the other carriers get 25-30% raises, really. I understand why bubs is mad, and soon there will be many more like him.
I get that you are mad it's taking so long. I am as well. Just remember who you should be mad at. The company is benefiting from dragging this out. They could walk in, drop DAL's contract on the table, and we'd have a CBA the next week. They are the ones hoping we grow impatient and accept a sub par contract. This is straight out of the union busting playbook. I suggest using your anger to study up on the SOP, not carrying write ups, not picking up RSA's, and taxiing at a safe speed.
11-08-2016, 12:44 PM
#1747
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Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 155
Originally Posted by PasserOGas
I get that you are mad it's taking so long. I am as well. Just remember who you should be mad at. The company is benefiting from dragging this out. They could walk in, drop DAL's contract on the table, and we'd have a CBA the next week. They are the ones hoping we grow impatient and accept a sub par contract. This is straight out of the union busting playbook. I suggest using your anger to study up on the SOP, not carrying write ups, not picking up RSA's, and taxiing at a safe speed.
11-08-2016, 12:45 PM
#1748
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Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 147
Originally Posted by PasserOGas
I get that you are mad it's taking so long. I am as well. Just remember who you should be mad at. The company is benefiting from dragging this out. They could walk in, drop DAL's contract on the table, and we'd have a CBA the next week. They are the ones hoping we grow impatient and accept a sub par contract. This is straight out of the union busting playbook. I suggest using your anger to study up on the SOP, not carrying write ups, not picking up RSA's, and taxiing at a safe speed.
Good advice!!
11-08-2016, 01:45 PM
#1749
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 27
Originally Posted by WhiteHammer
Who said I was angry? Bubs is angry, angry enough to vote no for the LOA, but I never said I was angry.
11-08-2016, 02:29 PM
#1750
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 524
Originally Posted by WhiteHammer
I don't agree with Bubba 100%. I know I risk the union mafia attacking me by saying this, but it's taking too long to get a CBA. We have been paying dues for over 2 years. For 99% of us that's just money down the drain. Protections. Protections from what? It's such a small group that encounters this, and yes having alpa at your back is nice. However I don't feel sorry for the group that can't show up on time, can't talk to people right, can't wear their uniform right, can't follow SOP, ect. For the majority it has been a 2% pay cut for nothing. I am optimistic that we will get a good CBA, who knows, no way to tell now what we would of got with the DR, better? Worse? Probably worse than the initial CBA, but who knows. It's just taking to long. We are throwing huge sums of money at Alpa. Get it done. Why is that so hard. Millions of dollars a year are going into their pocket. I know it's a contract from scratch, not really though. Are we waiting for the economy to take a ****? Are we expecting TA1 at the end of 2017 just to vote no and get TA2 at the end of 2018. That would be 4 years of dues with no contract. That's not winning. We pay dues and watch all the other carriers get 25-30% raises, really. I understand why bubs is mad, and soon there will be many more like him.
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