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06-30-2016, 12:53 PM
#452
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Originally Posted by IH8ROADS
Yup, heard this straight from R.H., he also added Airbus wanted an extra $10M per airframe than originally planned. However, A330's weren't part of the conversation.
Avianca and Azul should have some cheap deals on aircraft soon.
Avianca and Azul should have some cheap deals on aircraft soon.
06-30-2016, 02:06 PM
#453
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Originally Posted by feltf4
I heard fuloughs
not cool bro!
Originally Posted by Edpilot23
Why would Avianca and Azul have cheap deals on aircraft soon?
06-30-2016, 05:12 PM
#454
What’s it doing now?
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When have we shown an affinity for used airplanes? Avianca has 8 and azul has 5 a330s and most are leased. The 330 is a popular and performing airplane, those leasing companies will be able to place them globally without having to severely discount them to us. The 321lr is the conservative bet and the one I hope JetBlue makes. If we do long haul to a region and it takes as dump because of Zika, Ebola, Isis, or bird flu we can re deploy those 321s domestically or to a different region without selling the farm.
06-30-2016, 05:55 PM
#455
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Used 330... New 321LR...
It'll boil down to cost, if price is same or within a few million, throw in a sim and you got a deal on wide bodies. I agree with the guy on the previous page. Something is a foot at the special K. Time will tell the tale.
It'll boil down to cost, if price is same or within a few million, throw in a sim and you got a deal on wide bodies. I agree with the guy on the previous page. Something is a foot at the special K. Time will tell the tale.
06-30-2016, 06:00 PM
#456
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Originally Posted by Tom a Hawk
When have we shown an affinity for used airplanes? Avianca has 8 and azul has 5 a330s and most are leased. The 330 is a popular and performing airplane, those leasing companies will be able to place them globally without having to severely discount them to us. The 321lr is the conservative bet and the one I hope JetBlue makes. If we do long haul to a region and it takes as dump because of Zika, Ebola, Isis, or bird flu we can re deploy those 321s domestically or to a different region without selling the farm.
06-30-2016, 06:09 PM
#457
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Originally Posted by aldonite7667
We took back 6 used 320's in 2010 and we currently have 2 used 320's in refurb to be used as operational spares.
06-30-2016, 06:15 PM
#458
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Originally Posted by Tom a Hawk
When have we shown an affinity for used airplanes? Avianca has 8 and azul has 5 a330s and most are leased. The 330 is a popular and performing airplane, those leasing companies will be able to place them globally without having to severely discount them to us. The 321lr is the conservative bet and the one I hope JetBlue makes. If we do long haul to a region and it takes as dump because of Zika, Ebola, Isis, or bird flu we can re deploy those 321s domestically or to a different region without selling the farm.
It's not a conservative call if the performance isn't going as advertised....and as CCH said, it boils down to cost at some point......
There's a reason we keep adding seats to the 320 and the only plane we're taking now are 321s......ASM is the name of the game...
If we can get a 330 reasonably priced, I don't see how the company doesn't go with that.........there was discussion that they wanted 220-250 airframes in order to feed a WB fleet....we'll be at the top end of that number in 2 years...right about the time an ETOPS cert would be completed....
06-30-2016, 06:24 PM
#459
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Originally Posted by Tom a Hawk
When have we shown an affinity for used airplanes? Avianca has 8 and azul has 5 a330s and most are leased. The 330 is a popular and performing airplane, those leasing companies will be able to place them globally without having to severely discount them to us. The 321lr is the conservative bet and the one I hope JetBlue makes. If we do long haul to a region and it takes as dump because of Zika, Ebola, Isis, or bird flu we can re deploy those 321s domestically or to a different region without selling the farm.
Also, I've heard the LR would require a pretty low cabin configuration to really make that 4000nm range. CASM would rise dramatically.
07-01-2016, 03:43 AM
#460
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Originally Posted by aldonite7667
We took back 6 used 320's in 2010 and we currently have 2 used 320's in refurb to be used as operational spares.
And those 6 are always a joy to fly. If ever there was argument for staying away from used metal, those 6 are it.
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