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01-22-2018, 02:30 PM
#5241
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,132
Originally Posted by AYLflyer
That's a pro-standards call if I've ever seen one. I've never once been harassed for not doing a stand-up PA, and I don't ever plan on doing one. Also never been yelled at for not cleaning. If a CA wants to yell at me for that, I'll gladly remove my bags and he can find a new FO to fly with, and explain to his CP why his crew partner refuses to fly with him.
The cleaning thing is what really gets to me though, mostly this line right here
"Buddy Pass Riders & family members should clean their row and deplane."
Guess what I don't tell people who use my buddy passes? That they need to clean the airplane. Why? Because that's embarrassing. I'm not making my wife clean our airplane while we fly, and I'm not telling my friends that use my buddy passes to clean up either. I'll cross belts and pickup my own trash if I'm non-revving, but I'm not making my family/friends do it.
Every airliner I've ever been on is a disgusting melting pot of nasty, sticky grossness. I will never stick my hand into the back of a seat pocket. I've gotten sick so many times and had to call out while working for the airlines, the last thing I'm going to do is go clean after the general public. I used to clean lavs and cabins while in the corporate world, and it wasn't that bad and I hardly ever got sick. Cleaning an airliner? No thanks.
The cleaning thing is what really gets to me though, mostly this line right here
"Buddy Pass Riders & family members should clean their row and deplane."
Guess what I don't tell people who use my buddy passes? That they need to clean the airplane. Why? Because that's embarrassing. I'm not making my wife clean our airplane while we fly, and I'm not telling my friends that use my buddy passes to clean up either. I'll cross belts and pickup my own trash if I'm non-revving, but I'm not making my family/friends do it.
Every airliner I've ever been on is a disgusting melting pot of nasty, sticky grossness. I will never stick my hand into the back of a seat pocket. I've gotten sick so many times and had to call out while working for the airlines, the last thing I'm going to do is go clean after the general public. I used to clean lavs and cabins while in the corporate world, and it wasn't that bad and I hardly ever got sick. Cleaning an airliner? No thanks.
Think of it as an opportunity for someone who is not bound by arbitration to sue JetBlue and actually win in a court of law and due process. Unfortunately JetBlue pilots only get the kangaroo court of arbitration.
01-23-2018, 02:30 AM
#5242
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Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 54
BTW, where is it in the SOP that we clean planes on a nonrev flight? I guess it is not even an SOP, maybe? It is just a benefit contingent on cleaning? The only place I found it was on the travel page. And, BTW, whoever posted the “culture pic of the week” with the little girl cleaning with blue gloves on is pretty irresponsible, in MY opinion.
01-23-2018, 04:51 AM
#5243
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2015
Posts: 122
I like the argument that I am using my jumpseat privileges, therefore you can’t force me to help out cleaning.
Even if the flight shows plenty of open seats and I know I’ll get one, I still fill out a jumpseat request form, have them verify on CASS and introduce myself to the CA.
Even if the flight shows plenty of open seats and I know I’ll get one, I still fill out a jumpseat request form, have them verify on CASS and introduce myself to the CA.
01-23-2018, 04:52 AM
#5244
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,473
Originally Posted by BackseatPilot
BTW, where is it in the SOP that we clean planes on a nonrev flight? I guess it is not even an SOP, maybe? It is just a benefit contingent on cleaning? The only place I found it was on the travel page. And, BTW, whoever posted the “culture pic of the week” with the little girl cleaning with blue gloves on is pretty irresponsible, in MY opinion.
01-23-2018, 05:04 AM
#5245
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 917
Originally Posted by nuball5
Yet another example why there needs to be significant changes on the BOD and upper management. Jetblue announces BOS-MSP service starting in May, four months after Minneapolis is hosting the Super Bowl with the Patriots in the game. It's scary how behind the eight-ball they find themselves constantly. Another win for Delta it looks like.
Aren't we like the offial airline of thr Patriots? How is it we don't have any flighrs, yet? Management really is asleep at the wheel.
01-23-2018, 05:37 AM
#5246
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: FO
Posts: 302
Originally Posted by capt707
Southwest just added superbowl flights from BOS/PHL to MSP. AA and UA have already added flights Between BOS-MSP.
Aren't we like the offial airline of thr Patriots? How is it we don't have any flighrs, yet? Management really is asleep at the wheel.
Aren't we like the offial airline of thr Patriots? How is it we don't have any flighrs, yet? Management really is asleep at the wheel.
01-23-2018, 06:04 AM
#5247
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Joined APC: Jun 2016
Posts: 243
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Originally Posted by capt707
Southwest just added superbowl flights from BOS/PHL to MSP. AA and UA have already added flights Between BOS-MSP.
Aren't we like the offial airline of thr Patriots? How is it we don't have any flighrs, yet? Management really is asleep at the wheel.
Aren't we like the offial airline of thr Patriots? How is it we don't have any flighrs, yet? Management really is asleep at the wheel.
Because operating to MSP requires gates, Jetblue software installed on the computers, our gate agents, ground ops that know or policies and procedures, to name a few. Zero of which we have yet. The above mentioned Airlines can do that on a whim because they already service that airport.
Can’t just create service with the snap of a finger. And can’t fault Jetblue for not having these wheels in motion sooner, when it was just 3 days ago that the Pats were decided to be in the super bowl. But it also shouldn’t take months either.... but hey! That Palm Springs flight though!
01-23-2018, 06:05 AM
#5248
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,002
Originally Posted by capt707
Southwest just added superbowl flights from BOS/PHL to MSP. AA and UA have already added flights Between BOS-MSP.
Aren't we like the offial airline of thr Patriots? How is it we don't have any flighrs, yet? Management really is asleep at the wheel.
Aren't we like the offial airline of thr Patriots? How is it we don't have any flighrs, yet? Management really is asleep at the wheel.
01-23-2018, 06:23 AM
#5249
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2014
Position: FO
Posts: 435
Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
Upper management would rather his daughter get poked with aids laced needle then himself I guess.
01-23-2018, 06:47 AM
#5250
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,445
Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
Upper management would rather his daughter get poked with aids laced needle then himself I guess.
"Well sweetheart, jetblue is addicted to free labor and I had to pimp you out to set the example."
"Daddy, why is your screen name Southerner?"
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