Originally Posted by greedyairlineexec

that was the email the empty suits at the table working for JB put out to try to cause division in the pilot ranks...little did they realize everyone at JB thinks Alaska rates minus 1% are unapceptable and an insult ,as alaksa does not set market rate.

management proposed Alaska rates minus 1%. let that sink in. alaska pilots would have turned down their current rates if they had been given the chance to vote on it, but it was an arbitrator decision so they had to eat that.

furthermore , the concept of pattern bargaining is that you build up on each other cba, meaning , our Alpa proposed rates are not only above current Delta or United, but includes what we assume will be their 2020 and beyond future rates since they start negotiations in a year.

to add insult to the company proposal ,they wanted to have zero work rules to offset that pathetic rate offer, and no profit sharing with zero improvement to our current heath care plans that's worse than walmarts'.

don't forget too that those rates were for a320-321 only, the 190 was offered zero .




we can only hope we reach and impass with NMB release soon so we can shut down this experiment and see the worthless JB management team be fired .

Originally Posted by Bluedriver

I hope the last few "happy to be here" types finally see this company's true colors.

Originally Posted by Rascal

They proposed less than Alaska rates contingent on scheduling concessions.

Originally Posted by Rascal

They proposed less than Alaska rates contingent on scheduling concessions.

Originally Posted by coopervane

And to be clear. The offer was CURRENT Alaska rates....not even the arbitration rates.

To those that say “it’s just business” imagine you are selling you’re Toyota.....asking $10,000. Some guy calls and meets you on a Saturday. Spends half the afternoon test driving your car.....has it checked by his mechanic.

Offers you $2000. You scoff. You counter with $9500. He offers $2020

“Get the hell off my property you say.....quit wasting my time”.

He says “it’s just business”

Originally Posted by coopervane

And to be clear. The offer was CURRENT Alaska rates....not even the arbitration rates.

Originally Posted by GuppyPuppy

Current rate is about $251/hour. 1% less is about $248/hour. AS goes to about $258/hour in just over 60 days, while we would just be ratifying by that date IF we had a TA today. So, their proposed rate is actually about 4% less than AS rates, not to mention all the work rule concessions and such.

Don't believe any of the company propaganda & spin. FAKE NEWS!

GUP

Originally Posted by AYLflyer

Is there anything a pilot flying tomorrow can do to help support the picket? I'm passing through JFK with a very short break between legs.

Originally Posted by AYLflyer

Is there anything a pilot flying tomorrow can do to help support the picket? I'm passing through JFK with a very short break between legs.