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07-26-2016, 05:11 AM
#611
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Joined APC: Mar 2012
Posts: 988
Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
New totals
2017 -15
2018 -11
2019- 21
2020-28
2021-27
2022-27
2023-3
The schedule gets amended every 2-3 years so we'll see if the big growth happens in the early 2020's or not.
Openly talking about Europe sounds cool and everything, but it does scare me a bit. Hopefully the negotiations will include trip rigs/per diem adjustments and true international pay to reflect these possibilities.
Also the 321 is quickly becoming a major part of our fleet. The 321 is a 757 sized AC. Our pay rates need to reflect this either based on a blended rate that adjusts with the AC ratio or an override.
That said I prefer this news over a merger announcement with frontier/spirit/Hawaiian/Alaska any day!
2017 -15
2018 -11
2019- 21
2020-28
2021-27
2022-27
2023-3
The schedule gets amended every 2-3 years so we'll see if the big growth happens in the early 2020's or not.
Openly talking about Europe sounds cool and everything, but it does scare me a bit. Hopefully the negotiations will include trip rigs/per diem adjustments and true international pay to reflect these possibilities.
Also the 321 is quickly becoming a major part of our fleet. The 321 is a 757 sized AC. Our pay rates need to reflect this either based on a blended rate that adjusts with the AC ratio or an override.
That said I prefer this news over a merger announcement with frontier/spirit/Hawaiian/Alaska any day!
Realizing that
2020 10
2021 7
2022 7
deliveries are E190s which we'll never see.
Having said that, don't be surprised if we hear about more merger/acquisition news before the year is up. This is not just flight deck gossip. JB is in fact doing due diligence on several airlines right now.
Will anything come of it? Who knows. Does JB want to increase its west coast operations exponentially--a feat that these spread out delivery increases won't accomplish? I think we all know the answer to that question.
07-26-2016, 05:25 AM
#612
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,881
Originally Posted by BunkerF16
Realizing that
2020 10
2021 7
2022 7
deliveries are E190s which we'll never see.
Having said that, don't be surprised if we hear about more merger/acquisition news before the year is up. This is not just flight deck gossip. JB is in fact doing due diligence on several airlines right now.
Will anything come of it? Who knows. Does JB want to increase its west coast operations exponentially--a feat that these spread out delivery increases won't accomplish? I think we all know the answer to that question.
2020 10
2021 7
2022 7
deliveries are E190s which we'll never see.
Having said that, don't be surprised if we hear about more merger/acquisition news before the year is up. This is not just flight deck gossip. JB is in fact doing due diligence on several airlines right now.
Will anything come of it? Who knows. Does JB want to increase its west coast operations exponentially--a feat that these spread out delivery increases won't accomplish? I think we all know the answer to that question.
Which is it?
07-26-2016, 05:32 AM
#613
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Joined APC: Mar 2012
Posts: 988
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
You are either repeating flight deck gossip or violating an NDA, or compromising someone else's NDA.
Which is it?
Which is it?
None of the above. That I'm aware of. I've never been told information from anyone who said something then told me to keep it to myself. Or that it was confidential information.
If someone would confide in me information and then told me not to say anything, you'd never read it here.
07-26-2016, 05:54 AM
#614
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 917
Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
New totals
2017 -15
2018 -11
2019- 21
2020-28
2021-27
2022-27
2023-3
The schedule gets amended every 2-3 years so we'll see if the big growth happens in the early 2020's or not.
Openly talking about Europe sounds cool and everything, but it does scare me a bit. Hopefully the negotiations will include trip rigs/per diem adjustments and true international pay to reflect these possibilities.
Also the 321 is quickly becoming a major part of our fleet. The 321 is a 757 sized AC. Our pay rates need to reflect this either based on a blended rate that adjusts with the AC ratio or an override.
That said I prefer this news over a merger announcement with frontier/spirit/Hawaiian/Alaska any day!
2017 -15
2018 -11
2019- 21
2020-28
2021-27
2022-27
2023-3
The schedule gets amended every 2-3 years so we'll see if the big growth happens in the early 2020's or not.
Openly talking about Europe sounds cool and everything, but it does scare me a bit. Hopefully the negotiations will include trip rigs/per diem adjustments and true international pay to reflect these possibilities.
Also the 321 is quickly becoming a major part of our fleet. The 321 is a 757 sized AC. Our pay rates need to reflect this either based on a blended rate that adjusts with the AC ratio or an override.
That said I prefer this news over a merger announcement with frontier/spirit/Hawaiian/Alaska any day!
I agree about the pay rates, rigs, per diem, etc. all needs to be improved, especially if we start doing more international stuff.
Curious to see what kind of growth we will see in LGB. I also believe the Bay area base rumor will probably come true now, especially with more Mint expansion. Who wants to bet we will start flying LGB-SJC?
07-26-2016, 06:24 AM
#615
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Posts: 82
Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
New totals
2017 -15
2018 -11
2019- 21
2020-28
2021-27
2022-27
2023-3
The schedule gets amended every 2-3 years so we'll see if the big growth happens in the early 2020's or not.
Openly talking about Europe sounds cool and everything, but it does scare me a bit. Hopefully the negotiations will include trip rigs/per diem adjustments and true international pay to reflect these possibilities.
Also the 321 is quickly becoming a major part of our fleet. The 321 is a 757 sized AC. Our pay rates need to reflect this either based on a blended rate that adjusts with the AC ratio or an override.
That said I prefer this news over a merger announcement with frontier/spirit/Hawaiian/Alaska any day!
2017 -15
2018 -11
2019- 21
2020-28
2021-27
2022-27
2023-3
The schedule gets amended every 2-3 years so we'll see if the big growth happens in the early 2020's or not.
Openly talking about Europe sounds cool and everything, but it does scare me a bit. Hopefully the negotiations will include trip rigs/per diem adjustments and true international pay to reflect these possibilities.
Also the 321 is quickly becoming a major part of our fleet. The 321 is a 757 sized AC. Our pay rates need to reflect this either based on a blended rate that adjusts with the AC ratio or an override.
That said I prefer this news over a merger announcement with frontier/spirit/Hawaiian/Alaska any day!
07-26-2016, 07:08 AM
#616
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Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,512
Originally Posted by mike12345
I may have missed this in the release. Did they say we were getting five per year (15 CEO in the first three and 15 NEO in the last three years)? Or did they just say 15 in 2017-19 and 15 in 2020-2023 meaning they could distribute them as desired?
http://hsprod.investis.com/shared/v2...=&SEQ=&SQDESC=
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07-26-2016, 07:30 AM
#618
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
Position: Who cares?
Posts: 178
lol on the negativity.... cmon, enjoy this good news... and enjoy the fact they want to grow this company, but they also want to grow it smartly and carefully. That being said, I don't think anyone is wearing rose colored sunglasses as it relates to this industry.... anything can change, and relatively fast (for better or for worse).
However, in the mean time, there is no reason to not enjoy good news and have a semi-positive attitude. And frankly, it makes life easier
However, in the mean time, there is no reason to not enjoy good news and have a semi-positive attitude. And frankly, it makes life easier
07-26-2016, 07:56 AM
#619
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Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: Left,Right, Left, Right,Right,Left, Right, Left
Posts: 3,150
Originally Posted by iPilot6
lol on the negativity.... cmon, enjoy this good news... and enjoy the fact they want to grow this company, but they also want to grow it smartly and carefully. That being said, I don't think anyone is wearing rose colored sunglasses as it relates to this industry.... anything can change, and relatively fast (for better or for worse).
However, in the mean time, there is no reason to not enjoy good news and have a semi-positive attitude. And frankly, it makes life easier
However, in the mean time, there is no reason to not enjoy good news and have a semi-positive attitude. And frankly, it makes life easier
Nope this is bad news... it's bad. Get your resume ready.
They could cancel the order...
Economy...
Stuff...
Lease returns...
190!....
Nine eleven...
Blewjet
07-26-2016, 10:18 AM
#620
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
Position: Who cares?
Posts: 178
Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
Noooooo
Nope this is bad news... it's bad. Get your resume ready.
They could cancel the order...
Economy...
Stuff...
Lease returns...
190!....
Nine eleven...
Blewjet
Nope this is bad news... it's bad. Get your resume ready.
They could cancel the order...
Economy...
Stuff...
Lease returns...
190!....
Nine eleven...
Blewjet
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