Originally Posted by queue

Canceling was a BIG MISTAKE.

This is no different than North Korea playing multiple administrations to develop nuclear weapons, Iran playing the USA while they too develop nuclear weapons, and the North Vietnamese communist government stalling after bombing missions. They are just playing for time and/or a contract more favorable to them. B6ALPA's propensity to leave Hill 262 after getting a promise of a cease-fire is ill-advised. We'll simply have to spend more blood and treasure in the future at a time and place that is not optimal for victory. It's not everyday that investor meetings happen - this opportunity should never be wasted.

The USA dropped nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki after Japan wanted to surrender. The president decided to do it anyways to assure 100% victory for WWII and for the future of any wars. He wanted to show that nuclear war is so horrendous that no one would ever use nuclear weapons again. It worked. We fought the cold war without losing a life in war or using nuclear weapons. If we retreat now and play the Vietnam strategy, we will lose the war.

Peace through strength. The cost of respect is eternal vigilance.

Originally Posted by jtrain609

You're going to go away when Ford and Harrison assigns you to harass some other union after this is all over, right?

Originally Posted by PasserOGas

If the MEC descided to give all that up for this AIP I assume it is pretty good.

Originally Posted by queue

Hardly. They are one of my targets. I simply want you guys to stop being jellyfish so the silent war against F&H can also succeed. If you think I'm harassing B6 ALPA and ALPA, that is fine. I want them to show better results faster. How is that a bad thing? Wouldn't it be better if you too raised your standards?



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Originally Posted by queue

I hope so. Blind trust is not a good idea in business and war.

I'm ready to vote No. i will accept no compromises. MEC will be held accountable if they accept less.


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Originally Posted by PasserOGas

Same page. However, pickets are a means to an end. A TA is that end, so why continue?

Originally Posted by PasserOGas

Same page. However, pickets are a means to an end. A TA is that end, so why continue?

Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand

No a CBA is the end.

We have an AIP.

Then a TA.

Then when we all vote it in, we have a CBA.

Then it's over, and the enforcement begins. Don't quit in the final stretch man. there's still a mile or so left in the marathon.

Originally Posted by jtrain609

No, that's not fine. What you do is undermine the collective goals of our union by publicly attacking the MEC. We are strongest when we stand united, not when we squabble and negotiate in public. The discord you sow doesn't help us, it hurts our collective cause, which is another reason I think you're a plant from F&H.

There are pathways to let your concern be known within the union, none of which you can follow, because you're not a member.

Originally Posted by PasserOGas

No one is quitting. This is a game of sticks AND carrots. They came to the table, its carrot time. If the MEC runs into trouble with a TA and the company is being obnoxious over small details the goodwill ends.