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Old 07-24-2018 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Geezer
DHL is a big and long time customer. Do they know you're not a fan? Have you told Conrad?
It's laughable you think DHL or anyone else for that matter would ever care what the pilots think. The irony is the pilots have a front seat to the insanity on a nightly basis.
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Old 07-24-2018 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog
K4 has yet to feel the results of DHL stupidity.....prior to this sudden increase in business for K4 which most likely resulted in alot of promises of new aircraft, new contract, pay raises, conditions at K4 sucked. It was one of the last places to go when you were out of work. Now everyone is holding hands and singing Kim bye ah. Times will change when DHL is involved. Once ABX and Atlas also sign a crappy lowball contract...business again will be shifted around ...cities closed, surplus aircraft , talk of furloughs somthing K4 is familiar with and concessions. It's the DHL way....as the beacon turns...
You have it wrong again. There were no promises of aircraft or new business when the TA was offered.

Hey smart guy, I have some news for you troll boy. Nobody that I know at Kalitta is unaware of the business that we are in. When there is a downturn, aircraft will be parked. You are not a genius for knowing that.

Regarding DHL. Connie refuses to do long term contracts with them for exactly the reasons you write above, in lecturing all of us “stupid” pilots at Kalitta. Connie does this so he can control the dialogue with DHL and not become DHL *****s like you guys have become.

I think I will ride with Connie until my career ends. He may be a gruff, tough businessman but he doesn’t lie to us. I would much rather have bad news than to be lied to.
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Old 07-24-2018 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Varsity
Naive.

With an international family, I grew up traveling and went to a great university. We all appreciate your redneck analysis, but not everyone grows up motel 6 broke.

K4 isn't all bad; but it's still K4, not Fedex.
I am truly happy for you, that you were raised with a silver or gold spoon in your mouth. I, like many others was not.

With 20 months to go and on track to make 300k+ this year and excellent health benefits I am happy.

If FedEx or UPS offered me a job making what I am right now with even a moderate pay increase, I would turn it down. Our quality of life while on the job has always been better here.
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Old 07-24-2018 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by maxjet
I am truly happy for you, that you were raised with a silver or gold spoon in your mouth. I, like many others was not.

With 20 months to go and on track to make 300k+ this year and excellent health benefits I am happy.

If FedEx or UPS offered me a job making what I am right now with even a moderate pay increase, I would turn it down. Our quality of life while on the job has always been better here.
How is K4 retirement?
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Old 07-24-2018 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by maxjet
You have it wrong again. There were no promises of aircraft or new business when the TA was offered.

Hey smart guy, I have some news for you troll boy. Nobody that I know at Kalitta is unaware of the business that we are in. When there is a downturn, aircraft will be parked. You are not a genius for knowing that.

Regarding DHL. Connie refuses to do long term contracts with them for exactly the reasons you write above, in lecturing all of us “stupid” pilots at Kalitta. Connie does this so he can control the dialogue with DHL and not become DHL *****s like you guys have become.

I think I will ride with Connie until my career ends. He may be a gruff, tough businessman but he doesn’t lie to us. I would much rather have bad news than to be lied to.
You don't think there were promises made? Yea right....it went somthing like this. You give us the business we will give the pilots a smallish pay raise contract....after starving them for yrs....it will look like a gold mine! Why do you think K4 is getting all this increase in 767 DHL flying..these are not new city pairs you are flying to. Exp: ABX then Astar then Y5 now K4 going to MSP whoever signs the next lowball contract is next...Smart guy...
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Old 07-24-2018 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog
You don't think there were promises made? Yea right....it went somthing like this. You give us the business we will give the pilots a smallish pay raise contract....after starving them for yrs....it will look like a gold mine! Why do you think K4 is getting all this increase in 767 DHL flying..these are not new city pairs you are flying to. Exp: ABX then Astar then Y5 now K4 going to MSP whoever signs the next lowball contract is next...Smart guy...
I realize that this is the method used at Airlines you and I in the past have been associated with, but you are wrong again. I didn’t hear one word from the union about growth for acceptance. I did hear a lot of talk about the Teamsters getting in our way.
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Old 07-24-2018 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by maxjet
I realize that this is the method used at Airlines you and I in the past have been associated with, but you are wrong again. I didn’t hear one word from the union about growth for acceptance. I did hear a lot of talk about the Teamsters getting in our way.
Umm....no! You are wrong! Deals are always cut. Now DHL can whipsaw all the airlines into compliance...
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Old 07-24-2018 | 11:54 AM
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All,
I was denied about 2 months ago for a job interview with kalitta, if memory serves me right its a 6 mo. waiting period correct? Also, would anything preclude me from applying before that 6 mo. window?
I really want to give it another shot.
Thanks.
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Old 07-24-2018 | 03:36 PM
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Hey Maxjet, isn't it incredible how the rest of the aviation world cannot wrap their heads around how Connie does business? From regional guys, to other ACMI'S, and majors, everyone has a false notion about what it's like to work here.
And to Mr. Worldly traveled RJ pilot, we are not Fed Ex, and some of us are happy that we are not for certain things. I know you can't wrap your head around that, but the reality is you don't know crap, until you do, and sitting in that RJ won't fix that for you.
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Old 07-24-2018 | 05:16 PM
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Hey Maxjet, isn't it incredible how the rest of the aviation world cannot wrap their heads around how Connie does business? From regional guys, to other ACMI'S, and majors, everyone has a false notion about what it's like to work here.
And to Mr. Worldly traveled RJ pilot, we are not Fed Ex, and some of us are happy that we are not for certain things. I know you can't wrap your head around that, but the reality is you don't know crap, until you do, and sitting in that RJ won't fix that for you.
How often do you get to talk to Mr. Kalitta? Care to let us uninformed know what your input was the last time you two conferred? Has Mr. Wallace been keen on your marketing strategies? Maybe Mr. Sanderlin has been seeking out your input? Perhaps you've been in a 10 AM meeting recently and can give us an idea of the performance goals for the upcoming month or quarter.

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