Kalitta Air now accepting FO applications
07-24-2018 | 06:20 PM
#4521
VHR-very happily retired
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How often do you get to talk to Mr. Kalitta? Care to let us uninformed know what your input was the last time you two conferred? Has Mr. Wallace been keen on your marketing strategies? Maybe Mr. Sanderlin has been seeking out your input? Perhaps you've been in a 10 AM meeting recently and can give us an idea of the performance goals for the upcoming month or quarter.
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07-24-2018 | 06:26 PM
#4523
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I'm a little slow. I admit it. I just came on APC to see if anyone actually knows why the darned Nazi's bombed Pearl harbor.
07-24-2018 | 09:44 PM
#4524
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Joined: Jan 2013
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From: Doing Just Fine
Exactly. I max out my 401 by July and along with the extra $10K from Connie it's OK. The rest of the time I invest on my own behalf not worried that it will get taken away.
I have always been able to make ends meet pre contract I didn't spend my life living outside of my means and trying to beat "The Jones'", the pay increase was a nice extra, just means I have more money to do things I want and save for my retirement, which I will be damned if I am going to 65 anyway, on target for 60 maybe a little sooner, who knows.
07-24-2018 | 10:00 PM
#4525
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You don't think there were promises made? Yea right....it went somthing like this. You give us the business we will give the pilots a smallish pay raise contract....after starving them for yrs....it will look like a gold mine! Why do you think K4 is getting all this increase in 767 DHL flying..these are not new city pairs you are flying to. Exp: ABX then Astar then Y5 now K4 going to MSP whoever signs the next lowball contract is next...Smart guy...
Why does eveyone think that K4's business plan is solely based around DHL?? Yes it's a nice chunk of change but not the whole picture. We have other long term contracts in Asia and now for THY. Throw in the military charters etc., we do just fine with or without DHL. We have even turned down contracts due to lack of pilots, not because they are leaving, because the school house can only supply X per month.
It's no suprise that DHL is handing some routes to K4, we have a contract and in their eyes stability. At-less / Southern et al without contracts and on going issues pose a thorn in the side of DHL. Now is K4 offering or being paid less per flight I am not privy to that but I suspect with the vast number of our aircraft paid for and a lower debt load than others because we don't have to support shareholders and loans K4 can offer better rates.
This was all to evident in '08 / '09 when the downturn happened. Yes we furloughed but in reality we shouldn't have, At-Less were offering 400's at 200 prices just to have cash flow and make payments, K4 didn't have to make a single loan payment and parking a few birds cost nadda to Connie.
07-25-2018 | 02:58 AM
#4526
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Why does eveyone think that K4's business plan is solely based around DHL?? Yes it's a nice chunk of change but not the whole picture. We have other long term contracts in Asia and now for THY. Throw in the military charters etc., we do just fine with or without DHL. We have even turned down contracts due to lack of pilots, not because they are leaving, because the school house can only supply X per month.
It's no suprise that DHL is handing some routes to K4, we have a contract and in their eyes stability. At-less / Southern et al without contracts and on going issues pose a thorn in the side of DHL. Now is K4 offering or being paid less per flight I am not privy to that but I suspect with the vast number of our aircraft paid for and a lower debt load than others because we don't have to support shareholders and loans K4 can offer better rates.
This was all to evident in '08 / '09 when the downturn happened. Yes we furloughed but in reality we shouldn't have, At-Less were offering 400's at 200 prices just to have cash flow and make payments, K4 didn't have to make a single loan payment and parking a few birds cost nadda to Connie.
It's no suprise that DHL is handing some routes to K4, we have a contract and in their eyes stability. At-less / Southern et al without contracts and on going issues pose a thorn in the side of DHL. Now is K4 offering or being paid less per flight I am not privy to that but I suspect with the vast number of our aircraft paid for and a lower debt load than others because we don't have to support shareholders and loans K4 can offer better rates.
This was all to evident in '08 / '09 when the downturn happened. Yes we furloughed but in reality we shouldn't have, At-Less were offering 400's at 200 prices just to have cash flow and make payments, K4 didn't have to make a single loan payment and parking a few birds cost nadda to Connie.
07-25-2018 | 06:02 AM
#4527
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Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 105
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Exactly. I max out my 401 by July and along with the extra $10K from Connie it's OK. The rest of the time I invest on my own behalf not worried that it will get taken away.
I have always been able to make ends meet pre contract I didn't spend my life living outside of my means and trying to beat "The Jones'", the pay increase was a nice extra, just means I have more money to do things I want and save for my retirement, which I will be damned if I am going to 65 anyway, on target for 60 maybe a little sooner, who knows.
I have always been able to make ends meet pre contract I didn't spend my life living outside of my means and trying to beat "The Jones'", the pay increase was a nice extra, just means I have more money to do things I want and save for my retirement, which I will be damned if I am going to 65 anyway, on target for 60 maybe a little sooner, who knows.
07-25-2018 | 06:25 AM
#4528
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Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 105
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Why does eveyone think that K4's business plan is solely based around DHL?? Yes it's a nice chunk of change but not the whole picture. We have other long term contracts in Asia and now for THY. Throw in the military charters etc., we do just fine with or without DHL. We have even turned down contracts due to lack of pilots, not because they are leaving, because the school house can only supply X per month.
It's no suprise that DHL is handing some routes to K4, we have a contract and in their eyes stability. At-less / Southern et al without contracts and on going issues pose a thorn in the side of DHL. Now is K4 offering or being paid less per flight I am not privy to that but I suspect with the vast number of our aircraft paid for and a lower debt load than others because we don't have to support shareholders and loans K4 can offer better rates.
This was all to evident in '08 / '09 when the downturn happened. Yes we furloughed but in reality we shouldn't have, At-Less were offering 400's at 200 prices just to have cash flow and make payments, K4 didn't have to make a single loan payment and parking a few birds cost nadda to Connie.
It's no suprise that DHL is handing some routes to K4, we have a contract and in their eyes stability. At-less / Southern et al without contracts and on going issues pose a thorn in the side of DHL. Now is K4 offering or being paid less per flight I am not privy to that but I suspect with the vast number of our aircraft paid for and a lower debt load than others because we don't have to support shareholders and loans K4 can offer better rates.
This was all to evident in '08 / '09 when the downturn happened. Yes we furloughed but in reality we shouldn't have, At-Less were offering 400's at 200 prices just to have cash flow and make payments, K4 didn't have to make a single loan payment and parking a few birds cost nadda to Connie.
07-25-2018 | 06:50 AM
#4529
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07-25-2018 | 07:02 AM
#4530
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