FAA inspector thread
06-09-2020, 11:31 AM
#1031
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Originally Posted by UpUpUpNaWaYs
Any idea if the FAA allows you to stay inactive on a seniority list (I.E. 5-year LOA, Furlough) while being hired as an ASI?. I’m ready to give it up. As I understand there is still a probationary period with the FAA and if I don’t have to it would be nice to keep my number.
The FAA probation is one year. Basically show up on time, do your job and attend training. Don't abuse a G-car, and don't cause any riffs within the office or with an operator.
So yes, keep your number, and just keep that to yourself.
06-09-2020, 11:55 AM
#1032
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Keep it to yourself is very good advice. No office manager wants to dedicate all the time and resources to someone that may have a plan to transfer to another location after a year or that may go back to flying as soon as they get bored.
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06-09-2020, 01:50 PM
#1033
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Originally Posted by TommyDevito
As far as I know, they never ask about anything such as inactivity on a seniority list. This is government hiring, which is mainly processing a lot of paperwork, submitting to a background check, fingerprinting, etc. They do check previous employers, but that's just to verify what you put on the application.
The FAA probation is one year. Basically show up on time, do your job and attend training. Don't abuse a G-car, and don't cause any riffs within the office or with an operator.
So yes, keep your number, and just keep that to yourself.
The FAA probation is one year. Basically show up on time, do your job and attend training. Don't abuse a G-car, and don't cause any riffs within the office or with an operator.
So yes, keep your number, and just keep that to yourself.
Appreciate the advice. Yeah I don’t like concealing for many reasons, but was ultimately concerned there’d be some conflict of interest. As long as there is nothing in the paperwork I’m signing that says I can’t I’ll consider keeping it and just take the maximum leave of absence. I certainly wouldn’t advertise it regardless.
06-09-2020, 01:54 PM
#1034
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Originally Posted by I miss my dog
Keep it to yourself is very good advice. No office manager wants to dedicate all the time and resources to someone that may have a plan to transfer to another location after a year or that may go back to flying as soon as they get bored.
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06-09-2020, 08:22 PM
#1035
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Head’s up.... There is an Annual ethics filing requirement that is reviewed by attorneys. ASIs have to disclose and attest to all “outside positions“ held and must divest of all aviation related investments owned, such as airline stocks.
06-09-2020, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PerfInit
Head’s up.... There is an Annual ethics filing requirement that is reviewed by attorneys. ASIs have to disclose and attest to all “outside positions“ held and must divest of all aviation related investments owned, such as airline stocks.
I found this on the web for ASI’s
1-183 FINANCIAL INTERESTS. Title 49 CFR part 99 prohibits employees from having any financial interests that conflict, or appear to conflict, with their official duties or responsibilities. On the basis of the “appearance” standard, FAA employees are prohibited from owning stocks or other interests in airlines or aircraft manufacturing companies. This policy applies to all employees, regardless of their particular official duty assignments. Consideration of whether or not an employee’s duties involve the aviation-related company in which he or she may own stock is not relevant to the application of this prohibition. The regulations specifically exempt from the prohibition any holding in a widely held mutual fund, or regulated investment company, which does not specialize in the aviation or airline industry.
06-10-2020, 04:45 AM
#1037
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Originally Posted by UpUpUpNaWaYs
Thanks for the insight. At what stage does that take place? During The hiring process? Do disclosures get approved/disapproved on a case by case?
I found this on the web for ASI’s
I found this on the web for ASI’s
1-183 FINANCIAL INTERESTS. Title 49 CFR part 99 prohibits employees from having any financial interests that conflict, or appear to conflict, with their official duties or responsibilities. On the basis of the “appearance” standard, FAA employees are prohibited from owning stocks or other interests in airlines or aircraft manufacturing companies. This policy applies to all employees, regardless of their particular official duty assignments. Consideration of whether or not an employee’s duties involve the aviation-related company in which he or she may own stock is not relevant to the application of this prohibition. The regulations specifically exempt from the prohibition any holding in a widely held mutual fund, or regulated investment company, which does not specialize in the aviation or airline industry.
Each year every employee must file, it takes all of 5 minutes.
On the subject of retaining a seniority number, just make sure you don't take a position with oversight on that company and you'll be fine.
06-10-2020, 11:14 AM
#1038
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Airline recall rights, like actual employment, are viewed as a prohibited financial interest under the ethics rules and must be divested. HR will notify the new inspector before or around the time of EOD. It is up to that new inspector to decide if they will comply. Some do, some don't.
06-10-2020, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by widespreadflyer
Airline recall rights, like actual employment, are viewed as a prohibited financial interest under the ethics rules and must be divested. HR will notify the new inspector before or around the time of EOD. It is up to that new inspector to decide if they will comply. Some do, some don't.
06-10-2020, 01:08 PM
#1040
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Originally Posted by widespreadflyer
Airline recall rights, like actual employment, are viewed as a prohibited financial interest under the ethics rules and must be divested. HR will notify the new inspector before or around the time of EOD. It is up to that new inspector to decide if they will comply. Some do, some don't.
My organization has had NUMEROUS furloughed airline pilots in the past.
Some stayed when recalled, some went back (then came back again).
I'd like to know more about this rule too.
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