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Old 06-10-2020, 01:35 PM
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Check DOT Order 3750.7. I think there may also be a policy memo about “Other Interests” that includes recall rights.
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Old 06-10-2020, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PerfInit View Post
Check DOT Order 3750.7. I think there may also be a policy memo about “Other Interests” that includes recall rights.
This is the closest I came (for the amount of reading I was able to do!)
"(10)Employees shall not engage in outside employment or activities, including seeking or negotiating for employment, that conflict with official Government duties and responsibilities."

I don't think that applies.

I did read through "Appendix E. Outside Aviation Employment Policy"
fairly thoroughly and I didn't see anything in there applying to airline recall rights/

I word searched about every combination that I could think of that would include airline recall rights and didn't come up with any matches.
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Old 06-10-2020, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR View Post
This is the closest I came (for the amount of reading I was able to do!)
"(10)Employees shall not engage in outside employment or activities, including seeking or negotiating for employment, that conflict with official Government duties and responsibilities."

I don't think that applies.

I did read through "Appendix E. Outside Aviation Employment Policy"
fairly thoroughly and I didn't see anything in there applying to airline recall rights/

I word searched about every combination that I could think of that would include airline recall rights and didn't come up with any matches.
I certainly wouldn’t want to jeopardize anything with the FAA, but I also wouldn’t want to follow what an individual in HR’s opinion is about as much as what the legal precedent is.

From a retention standpoint, there is incentive for the FAA and the tax payer to require divestiture of any seniority at a carrier. Airlines after 9/11 required officially resigning seniority from their previous carrier. But unless it’s a direct or has the “appearance” Of being a conflict of interest, I’d be curious what the official interpretation is.

Thanks all for chiming in. In all cases, honesty is the best policy and I wouldn’t go against what I was officially told to do by anyone at the association.
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Old 06-10-2020, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by PerfInit View Post
For a primer on AEG, refer to the following docs:

-FAA Order 8110.4C, FAA Order 8900.1, Volume 8, Chapter 2 and AC 120-53B

It helps to have FSDO or CMO time prior to AEG because you will need experience with
Airman Certification (giving ATP/ type rating rides) and also strong knowledge of MMELs.
It also helps to have prior experience as an APM or AAPM.

You in AEG? I’m VERY interested but hear the travel is killer.
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Old 06-10-2020, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TommyDevito View Post
You'll have to disclose during the paperwork in the hiring process. No big deal, if you own stock, just sell it. A while back I inherited some stock in a major airline, I just had the broker sell it and buy something else, no big deal.
You have to do the financial disclosure every year as well.
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Old 06-11-2020, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes View Post
You have to do the financial disclosure every year as well.
Yep. But in the context of the conversation we were discussing onboarding a new hire.
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Old 06-11-2020, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MidwestXLguy View Post
You in AEG? I’m VERY interested but hear the travel is killer.
Hola,

Not in AEG but I frequently work with them. You are correct, lots of travel. A typical Cert project can involve
multiple Long trips, some are on the road for weeks in a row for an FSB. That, plus quarterly sim currency on 2 jets, participating in working groups, etc. Exciting work for the right person, gets to have “hands on” the newest flying machines.
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Originally Posted by PerfInit View Post
Hola,

Not in AEG but I frequently work with them. You are correct, lots of travel. A typical Cert project can involve
multiple Long trips, some are on the road for weeks in a row for an FSB. That, plus quarterly sim currency on 2 jets, participating in working groups, etc. Exciting work for the right person, gets to have “hands on” the newest flying machines.

Agreed. Works seems great but buddy did it and 30 day stints on the road isn’t for me at this point in life.
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Old 06-12-2020, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by widespreadflyer View Post
Airline recall rights, like actual employment, are viewed as a prohibited financial interest under the ethics rules and must be divested. HR will notify the new inspector before or around the time of EOD. It is up to that new inspector to decide if they will comply. Some do, some don't.
EOD? Sorry I’m not familiar with that Acronym. Appreciate everybody trying to answer.
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Old 06-12-2020, 04:30 AM
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EOD? Sorry I’m not familiar with that Acronym. Appreciate everybody trying to answer.
After you get your tentative offer of employment you'll have to log in to the Entrance on Duty System and fill out forms for HR. EOD or EODS.
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