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#71
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So how is the landing different (I fly RW.) I imagine the goal is to have minimum flare/aft yoke (that's what you guys call it, right?) applied so that all gear touches down nearly in unison?
Aside from that it's just appropriate A/S based on your weight and runway length, correct?
BTW, I realize this is probably a gross oversimplification, but I took a stab. I have no concept procedurally what you guys do.
Aside from that it's just appropriate A/S based on your weight and runway length, correct?
BTW, I realize this is probably a gross oversimplification, but I took a stab. I have no concept procedurally what you guys do.
Approach speed doesn't change with runway length. Only due to weights, flap configurations, and possible speed adjustments for wind conditions.
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No, it actually is a serious question. Every time I land the 767-300 I use basically the same technique I learned in a Cessna 150 30 years ago.....it's bigger, you flare higher, and you generally land with some thrust unless you're really light, but I don't consider that it "lands differently"...a plane is a plane.....hoping you can explain how it lands differently as you stated.
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By this criteria, every airplane lands differently. higher approach speeds? I've had Vref down to about 118 knots on a light 757....more inertia but bigger brakes.
#76
I know, it really isn't.
Then again, I've had pilots try to do stuff like deviating around a big radar return. My response? "Dude, you know that's Jamaica, not a TRW?"
Other guys eat the canned dispatch release like another Skittle out of the bag without a thought. then act shocked when 777 crew gets a Mach 3 BUK missile in their face. (100%, that event wouldn't have happened to me).
As it's been pointed out, it's just different.
Then again, I've had pilots try to do stuff like deviating around a big radar return. My response? "Dude, you know that's Jamaica, not a TRW?"
Other guys eat the canned dispatch release like another Skittle out of the bag without a thought. then act shocked when 777 crew gets a Mach 3 BUK missile in their face. (100%, that event wouldn't have happened to me).
As it's been pointed out, it's just different.
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The aircraft was dispatched through legally open airspace, and other airliners were also flying in that same vicinity. Only altitudes below FL320 were closed. Now if you want to have a discussion on the sheer stupidity of Ukraine only closing altitudes to FL320 when they knew the rebels shot down a Ukrainian military aircraft at 22,000 ft, and that a SAM missile that could reach 22k feet could easily reach anything double that...... that's a whole another topic.
Still, the aircraft was legally dispatched with legal routing in compliance with what was known and published at the time.
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What's your point?
The aircraft was dispatched through legally open airspace, and other airliners were also flying in that same vicinity. Only altitudes below FL320 were closed. Now if you want to have a discussion on the sheer stupidity of Ukraine only closing altitudes to FL320 when they knew the rebels shot down a Ukrainian military aircraft at 22,000 ft, and that a SAM missile that could reach 22k feet could easily reach anything double that...... that's a whole another topic.
Still, the aircraft was legally dispatched with legal routing in compliance with what was known and published at the time.
The aircraft was dispatched through legally open airspace, and other airliners were also flying in that same vicinity. Only altitudes below FL320 were closed. Now if you want to have a discussion on the sheer stupidity of Ukraine only closing altitudes to FL320 when they knew the rebels shot down a Ukrainian military aircraft at 22,000 ft, and that a SAM missile that could reach 22k feet could easily reach anything double that...... that's a whole another topic.
Still, the aircraft was legally dispatched with legal routing in compliance with what was known and published at the time.
#80
If they had been delayed 5 minutes the headlines would have read "Lufthansa shot down by..." or "AirFrance shot down by..."
Random uncontrollable stuff happens, international or domestic. There's no way to control any of it; that's the nature of randomness. TWA 800; missile test gone bad or electric spark in fuel tank?
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