Calling go-around from the jumpseat
04-30-2017, 08:58 AM
#123
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Originally Posted by DENpilot
Just curious, is there any etiquette or what would would you do....?
400' agl, engines still at idle, full dot high on GS, ultimately landed outside TDZ. First time I've been scared in the jumpseat.
400' agl, engines still at idle, full dot high on GS, ultimately landed outside TDZ. First time I've been scared in the jumpseat.
Did this happen in Denver on a VFR day with 12K or 16K feet of runway available?
Several posters have suggested that you were the ONLY one that realized you were a bit high and it was up to you to save the day? I suggest to you that both pilots in front of you realized that the aircraft was a bit high, but neither of them said anything or initiated a go around simply because they were not the least bit uncomfortable with the situation.
One dot high at 400 feet agl in Denver is not 'a scary situation'. That can easily be corrected by 300 feet and would not even be a concern to most experienced aviators.
I suspect neither front seat pilot were uncomfortable or concerned about the landing, and were oblivious to the fact that you were 'scared in the jumpseat'.
With that said, as a Captain, I want everyone to be comfortable on the flight deck, including the jumpseater. I always brief and expect the jump seat to speak up if they see something or are uncomfortable. I would gladly execute a missed approach for a jump seater, even if I personally didn't think it was necessary.
Last edited by ColdWhiskey; 04-30-2017 at 09:10 AM.
05-01-2017, 06:56 AM
#128
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Originally Posted by C130driver
How many modern airliners have "Break to Vacate" technology? I know some of the newer airbuses have them.
Does it display which turnoff you'd make under existing descent path/airspeed combination ? Show a modified glide path to safely make desired turn off ? Something else ? Thanks.
05-01-2017, 07:16 AM
#129
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Originally Posted by vroll1800
What is "Break to Vacate" technology ? (Did you mean to say "Brake")
Does it display which turnoff you'd make under existing descent path/airspeed combination ? Show a modified glide path to safely make desired turn off ? Something else ? Thanks.
Does it display which turnoff you'd make under existing descent path/airspeed combination ? Show a modified glide path to safely make desired turn off ? Something else ? Thanks.
Brake. Smart braking which can shoot to make a specific exit, manage brake energy in light of turn times, help prevent overshoots, and probably some other stuff.
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