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#51
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yeah, no thanks. You don't have to raise your voice or act like a tough guy with the agent, but 'shut up, get in line' is not something many of us are just going to put up with.
It's an absolutely BS policy, and if we all just 'shut up and got in line' when they changed the rule a few weeks back about no more using KCM in plain clothes, we wouldn't have gotten that privilege back so quickly.
The idea that a crew member who just finished flying/operating an aircraft all day and ends with a DH or even a JS home has to exit security and be rescreened is absolutely asinine.
It's an absolutely BS policy, and if we all just 'shut up and got in line' when they changed the rule a few weeks back about no more using KCM in plain clothes, we wouldn't have gotten that privilege back so quickly.
The idea that a crew member who just finished flying/operating an aircraft all day and ends with a DH or even a JS home has to exit security and be rescreened is absolutely asinine.
I talked to a guy who got detained for writing down a TSA badge number for reference for a later complaint. He didn't even hold up the process, just started writing down the badge number. Detained for about 3 hours, threatened with jail time, denied any opportunity to call a lawyer. He obviously missed his flight and in the follow-up complaint process he was told that TSA acted in accordance with procedure.
Don't like it? Don't object while on airport property. Write your congressman instead. Just realize that the last time congress said ONE WORD about airport security was a few years back when someone in TSA dared to suggest that pen-knife blades under an inch long were probably not a realistic threat so they shouldn't waste time/money screening for non-threat items. The public backlash to that common sense proposal was so intense that congress doubled down on the TSA idiocy overnight.
With that context in mind, do you really think anyone (except us of course) gives 2 shxts about a pilot missing his commute because of a stupidly unnecessary and idiotic extra screening?
#52
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Also, social media and phones. One passenger with a phone, also ****ed about standing in security for an hour, could snap a photo of you talking to TSA, label it "entitled pilot holding up security with complaint", and again you're busted.
Write your congressman instead, with a copy to your union reps and PAC. It probably won't help either but at least you'll still have a job.
#53
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And I'm saying that this could be a quick ticket to a detention room and loss of privileges. And you won't "win" that battle. Ever.
Also, social media and phones. One passenger with a phone, also ****ed about standing in security for an hour, could snap a photo of you talking to TSA, label it "entitled pilot holding up security with complaint", and again you're busted.
Write your congressman instead, with a copy to your union reps and PAC. It probably won't help either but at least you'll still have a job.
Also, social media and phones. One passenger with a phone, also ****ed about standing in security for an hour, could snap a photo of you talking to TSA, label it "entitled pilot holding up security with complaint", and again you're busted.
Write your congressman instead, with a copy to your union reps and PAC. It probably won't help either but at least you'll still have a job.
#54
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Maybe. But I make too much money at this job to risk any sort of dispute with any TSA employee who could taek muh jerb with a snap of his/her fingers.
It's not hard. Shut up, smile, comply, call scheduling if delayed. Lots of jerbs off airport property if it becomes intolerable.
It's not hard. Shut up, smile, comply, call scheduling if delayed. Lots of jerbs off airport property if it becomes intolerable.
#55
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Maybe. But I make too much money at this job to risk any sort of dispute with any TSA employee who could taek muh jerb with a snap of his/her fingers.
It's not hard. Shut up, smile, comply, call scheduling if delayed. Lots of jerbs off airport property if it becomes intolerable.
It's not hard. Shut up, smile, comply, call scheduling if delayed. Lots of jerbs off airport property if it becomes intolerable.
#56
I'm not saying to do this but all the TSA guy does is scribble his initial on your SSSS boarding pass and hands it back. What's to stop someone from getting a pass like this at the gate, walking away. Scribble some nonsense and then return and hand it back to board?
#57
They teach that scribble while getting your GED. Trying to replicate it, no way.
#58
Fastest way to lose your job
#59
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We go to the vet, negotiate the now bill from $400 back to original $200, but vet says it needs a release from original person who brought in the cat to let it go. I take the release down the street, order a cup of coffee and read the morning paper, scribble my best unreadable signature on it, and then return with $200 check and release.
Vet gives me the cat and wife begins process of rehoming cat again!
#60
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And at that point, if your ticket from the gate agent prints out with SSSS on you will be walking back out of the secure area to go through additional screening and will not be allowed to board.
Will this affect a jumpseater, no. Will this affect a non-Rev or DH, you betcha!
Will this affect a jumpseater, no. Will this affect a non-Rev or DH, you betcha!
These were typically flights where we operated it in and DH’d back on the quick turn, so no time to go through security.